Mondial as a separate Model discussion class

Old ground I realize. I know it has been considered and tossed over before. A lot of the enthusiasts are essentially different (not all but quite a few).
The 308 and 328 discussion is different than the Mondial discussion. And in my opinion it begs for a different category. Just mho.

 

As a new owner of a 1982 Mondial 8, I would agree with this idea, and hope that this will be possible, in future.

 

I prefer it the way it is.
The reason I say this is lots of the parts are interchangeable between the three models, so from personal experience I find the joint section most helpful, Jmho

 

Yes, lots of parts are similar, across 308/328/Mondial, but there are also lots of non-related parts.

This makes it much more difficult for Mondial owners to track down Mondial only help, without paging through lots of other non-related data and information.

Why should Mondial owners not have their own section?

 

plus 1 imho.
best to all

 

Same argument could be made for GT4's, and perhaps even more of a case than Mondial vs. GTB/GTS...

The shared benefits of keeping it all in one discussion class outweigh the potential individuality gain of a separate class, in my opinion.

 

I could not agree more!

I actually contacted Rob Lay a year ago and requested the same. (He seemed pretty open to the idea...) I have nothing against any of the other models, but a Mondial is a really unique Ferrari. To me it really does not "fit" with the 3x8's. In my case owning a "t" actually seems to put it closer to the 348/355's.

I have personally never considered a "benefit" of having the Mondial lumped in with the 308/328's. For me it means having to sift through information that is irrevelant to my needs.

I guess there is arguement to be made 'for and against', which is what we tend to do here! If I get a vote I say give the Mondials their own thread. Given the many years of production, I think they have earned that.

Just my .02.

 

+2, like it as it is

 

I think the Mondial t should be with the 348 and the other Mondial models should be with the 3X8 page. The engine and other major systems are similar with these models being grouped this way. I find I spend as much time or more on the 348 page and the Mondial page. Not another page is needed just a re-assignment.

Rob does a great job with this whole site.

 

Yep, I would vote for that.

 

Mondial 8 and Mondial 3.2:
Should be part of the 308/328/Mondial discussion board (many books and magazines also group these together)

Mondial t:
Should be part of the 348/355 discussion board (because of the Mondial t's similarities to the 348)

 

+1. It's about the drivetrain, not the sheet metal. Well, mostly, except when talking about interior trim and such.

 

I want to address a common mistake among 308/328 owners. Although Mondials share some universal parts, many, including exhausts and such differ. This is a common problem when working on Mondials because many ASSUME the parts are the same as the 308 & 328 and many suppliers & manufactures assume the same thing leaving Mondial owners struggling to get the correct parts. The cars are not the same which is why they have a different name. This is the reason the discussions should be seperate.

 

Actually you are Not Accurate
I have an 83 Mondial 3.0Qv and I bought a sports exhaust off someone with an 86 328 and it bolted on perfect no problems everything lines up flanges brackets etc..., and performs fine

The engines are the same, the reason they have a different name is that they have different bodies/bodywork/wheelbase

 

I think the t guys in spirit are "2+2" and add immensely to the Mondial discussions (wheels, suspension, colors, electrical systems, convert tops, etc) but certainly do need to cruise the "348 brotherhood" for drivetrain info. The "brotherhood" is bit nuts, but a good, helpful and fun group of guys.
I certainly don't want to loose Hank, Michael or any other of the t guys' great insights that all Mondial owners can enjoy.

 

+1

 

lets see...some differences are..

Body, obvious

air intake

transmission gearing

suspension

electronics, this is a bit of a biggie. the mondial has electrical engine sensors the 308/328 does not, we have sensors measuring the oil, pressure, temp & level. there is a water level sensor as well, look at the idiot light gauge and you'll notice loads of warning lights.

for the M8 guys at start up a green light should appear before you click over the starter if it's yellow or red don't and see what the issue is. pop any of the doors, bonnet or hood and a light goes off to alert you. a dead or broken link in the lights will also be alerted to.

the FUSE BOX! this alone should require a different section and relates to the above. it's a heavily laden electrical car in comparison to the 308/328 and alot of the problems are thus associated.

exhaust, some do and some don't cross over, not sure on the whys of that.

clutch linkage, the mondi is hydrolic.

fuel system, tanks and hose routing are far different along with hose sizing and vapor recovery.

if i think of more I'll post up.

 

Awwwah shucks. Thanks for that. I for one would still be here when I needed a breather from the nutty brotherhood.

 

I would like to see the Mondial have a seperate model discussion as well.

Mostly because of the negative comments posted by 308/328 owners.

My 2 cents

Charles

 

I think you have us confused with the 360/430 guys

 

I think a mondial + the 8s are the same car but different bodies and some small changes made through the years,but basicly the same car, mondial getting rarer due to there short reign, IMO