Ponder Dino for auction - No Reserve

http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails.cfm?SaleCode=GP07&CarID=r116

 

I'm by no means an expert but I predict it'll pull more than the $150,000.

 

I agree that it should go for over $150K. Interesting that a "completely unrestored" car with 4,284 "original" miles has what appear to be non-original seat covers, door panels and steering wheel. Go figure.

 

I was wondering about the steering wheel, looks like a modern Momo replacement. Didn't catch the seats and door panels, but now that you said something I agree.

 

There is a thread about this guys cars in the vintage section. Apparently, he wasn't afraid to modify things like steering wheels, seats and door panels. I guess to each his own...
There are also, if I remember correctly, some other things that were pointed out about this car. Something about having american turn signals and a euro bumper??? I could very well be incorrect, I make no claims to be a 246 expert... Seems like a neat car though.

 

the reason i don't trust "low mileage" cars. keep in mind the shift knob is also not original. i haven't seen this car person, but it looks to be a good car. i would be surprised if it brings anywhere near the "low" estimate.

 

the bumber isn't a euro bumber, but does have the badge bar. this car is a 74 car, there are a good number of us spec cars from 74 that have this. at first, i thought it was a add on dealership item, but too many cars have them. clearly, this isn't just coincidence. i don't know if the impending legislation caused ferrari to add them, as all 75 model year cars had to change. i have a very late production 74 dino, and it doesn't have them. i also have a very early 74 production dino and it doesn't have them. both are us spec.

clearly, like all things ferrari, there are no certainties.

 

not an indication of originality, but the car also has ferrari sheilds and a horse on the rear.

the most interesting thing for an "unrestored" car is the pininfarina badge on the drivers side. although it does say it is repainted (which can be the reason for it's presense), this is typically seen on a redone car.

 

The front turn signal are the square, orange ones and were for USA version cars. I also see USA front and rear bumpers. My opinion (I can be wrong here) is that the Euro bumpers have rubber trim on the front bumper which does not curve all the way into the radiator grill opening.

I think I see (from the very small photos) that this car has rubber on the front bumper that fully curves in like the USA version cars I know.

In addition, the rear bumpers had end caps; USA end caps were flat while Euro were recessed into the bumper end. This car appears to have USA bumper end caps (from the very small photos).


These intricate details contribute to owners' love of the details in these cars!

 

It also has that round gadget on the cam cover that's USA-only, I believe. (At least our car doesn't have one.)

No USA-type rectangular side marker lights.

 

The round gadget is an idle advance, and was on US spec cars only.

 

Did Ferrari actually deliver any Dino's with Borranis? I didn't know that.

No way it left the factory with those door panels, seats or steering wheel. So, highly original? Nah.

nice shape? Yup.

Shawn, you don't think this car will get to $125K?

Dave

 

i haven't seen this car, but i think it won't have any problem getting well past the $125k mark.

 

Agreed.

Guess I misread your post. This is an easy $160K car.

Does it say anything about books and tools?

Dave

 

not that i saw. assuming it is mechanically sound, which i have never heard anyone criticise ponder cars for being unkept, a quick interior redo could solve all the "ugly-ness"

 

results?

 

http://www.rmauctions.com/AuctionResultsSearch.cfm?AuctionYear=All&LotNum=&From=&To=&Make=Ferrari&SortBy=AL&Model=246&Sold=All&submitSearch=Search#

$187,000

 

Is the $187,000 number with or without commissions?

 

$170k +10% preium