Speeding ticket...............

I am in australia and got flashed doing 100klm in a 70klm zone.Lucky I just got a $250 Fine and 4 demerits. I tried to write to the cops as their was another car in the photo, but got a standard letter saying......Bad luck! It is my only offence in 6 years so I am ok for demerit points, I paid the fine no point me going to court, but I drive real carefull now. Allways have but just picked up my 328 gts from a service and well, she was driving real nice........what can I say. But get a good lawyer!!!!!!! Really you have to!!!!!! one that knows that area of Law. Good luck!

 

Lawyer up. Civil infraction and a fine is a much better alternative. What ever you pay the lawyer will be far less in the long run than if you go at it alone. Then again I know people who have been ticketed at 50+ speed limit, gone to court and judge asked if they wanted to take traffic school. But I would never take that risk.

 

+100 on getting an attorney. BUT take it one step further and see if you can locate an attorney who specializes in fighting tickets. I know several guys who make a living as attorneys fighting traffic tickets. (If you don't know where to start, call the NC bar association and tell them where you are located, and what kind of attorney you need. 9 out of 10 they will point you in the right direction).

I assure you it is always easier when you have an attorney. I have gotten my clients out of some serious jams just by knowing the DA/prosecutor and talking to them behind the courtroom. It also helps if your record is clean. If this is your 10th speeding ticket in the last 6 months, brace yourself. BUT if your attorney can honestly say that you are an upstanding citizen who lapsed in judgment, your chances are better for getting a simple fine...at the end of the day, they are after the money, not your azz when you are caught speeding.

Good luck.

 

why were you even doing 100 anyways? That like someone doing 140+ on a highway where the speed limit is 70.

 

Thats not a valid comparison if you consider events like the Silverstate Classic which have totally different road conditions. Who is to say conditions didn't permit it?

 

so its okay for you all to drive well above the speed limit? What if he had a wreck and killed someone?

 

1.- Are you worried about you insurance going up?

2.- Have you had any other infraction in the last 12 months? Go to the court and talk with someone there. You may be able to take driving school. Then on the court date plea guilty and that you want to attend driving school.

 

Every single person on this board has broken the speed limit. You will not get far with that arguement here. I just looked at your list of wanted cars. Imagine if you had just one of them with an empty road in front of you. Imagine it.

 

+100000000, its actually safer to go faster in most situations, plus sometimes your foot likes to rest on the floor.

 

Remember, it's not a speed limit, it's a REVENUE limit.

If the goverment didn't make so much money off tickets, it would be quite simple to install speed-limiting software in all cars sold in the US.

It's all about the money. 'Speeding' per se isn't a problem. Speed differential between you and other traffic can be a problem (right, Governor Corzine?), and excessive speed for conditions can be a problem.

In this country, I find the only time I go at or below the speed limit is either when there's a cop tailing me or there's a blizzard. I'm talking highways, of course. I stick to 25-30mph in developments.

 

You are probably right, however seriously exceeding the speed limit puts you in negligent terrirory. I can assure you that anyone driving in a negligent manor and causing harm to my loved ones will see some serious prosecution. 100 in a 50 zone is in fact negligent. Around here thats a housing developement.

 

I'm using that line to get out of my next speeding ticket..

"I was resting my foot on the floor officer, I swear".

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not their own facts. Eh?

School buses with kids travel 80mph in the slow lane going up a 2-3% gradient on some highways in California.

If you're going to use a residential road somewhere else on the planet other than where this driver received a ticket to determine if they were negligent or not, you are as bad as the courts. I submit Exhibit A in defense of the accused.

1 mi long
3 lanes each direction
Zero residences, businesses, commercial property
Separated by a 6ft wide concrete median a foot and a half tall
Its a 40mph zone
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I really don't understand speed limits at all. Some people blow them off and go 100, so can't find the gas pedal and go 10. I think we all know how fast we can travel safely. Personally in my town, there is a very wide, 1 lane street. There are some nice houses on one side, and without knowing it you can safely go 55-60, but technically its a 25mph zone.

 

Go to court-you most likely will not need a lawyer- the officer will most likely offer you a deal before heading into court-take it, a reduced fine and a couple of points.
If you fight it a couple of suggestions:
-accelerator pedal stuck
-searching for bathroom urgently........
-wasp flew inside cockpit

 

Just for your information the posted speed limit is what determines the allowable speed and it also determines when criminal negligence happens. Get in an accident speeding at twice the posted speed limit and you will soon find out what I mean.

 

Interesting how every one of these speeding ticket posts ends up a discussion about "what's safe" ro "not safe" or negligent, or whatever.

I think we can all agree that we've exceeded the speed limit on occasion. Doesn't make it right, just makes that a fact. What I'm wondering is this; Would you recommend going 100 miles per hour in a 55 zone to your mother, sister, dad, child, wife, or anyone else for that matter?

Do you really think 100 mph, on any public road, is a GOOD IDEA? Or, maybe it's a good idea for you, but it's not such a good idea for the 17 year old kid with 2500 miles of total driving experience. OR an older guy with lousy reflexes. Maybe it's not a good idea in an area where you might come upon someone else doing 50 miles per hour.

Just look at the closing rate of 100 mph vs 50 mph. You are closing at 73 feet per second. That's about 6 car lengths PER SECOND!! So, how good are your reflexes when that guy, who can't judge your speed in his rear view mirror, switches into your lane at 50, and you're doing 100. He looks in his mirror sees that you are 10 car lengths away, and switches lanes, you're on him in 1.5 seconds. Can you decelerate quickly enough not to bury yourself in his rear end? OR you crest a hill and find an obstruction. How many of you guys do a run both directions to see what might be in the way beofre you go exploring at triple digit speeds?

So, 100 mph is safe?

Anyone here to really thinks 100 MPH is a safe speed, a good idea, or just plain fun to do could make an argument that THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE who can drive that fast safely. That they have great reflexes, watch carefully, only pick safe stretches of road, etc. I call BS on that. We're not that good, and neither are our cars.

Moral of the story? If you get a ticket, pay the price. Get a lawyer, try to plead it down and LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT. No, not that you should get a radar detector, that maybe, just maybe you should slow down a little. ANd if you need an excuse, so as not to lose face, blame it on the other idiots out there, who don't know how to handle you driving at that speed.

DM

 

DM,

The reason these threads devolve into this kind of a discussion is because someone is always quick to point out how reckless and dangerous driving at a high rate of speed is. Sorry to disappoint, but I believe that a high rate of speed is not inherently dangerous given the right conditions. In fact, some courts happen to agree with this point of view (although it is in the minority). Unfortunately, many just feel that a high rate of speed is unsafe under any conditions. Regrettably, the laws are tailored to the lowest common denominator, and because of this they risk not being relevant at all any longer in certain circumstances. In other words, the laws lose their credibility. Speed limits are a great example.

You call BS on that? Well, while I respect your ability to recognize your own limits, please don't speak for others. You may not be that good, but some may be. Your car may not, but others may be. Bringing everyone down to the lowest standard (whatever that may be) may be egalitarian, but it also holds back those who can do better. Heck, if the American public is so concerned about this problem, why don't we just install speed governors on every vehicle and be done with it? That ought to address the problem, right? Hmmm. I guess we should just go and tell the Germans to shut down the Autobahn because 100mph is unsafe. They've managed to deal with it pretty well over the years. Admittedly, as the city limits have expanded, the open road is steadily shrinking, though.

That's not to say that I endorse or condone reckless behaviour or driving. I agree that there are folks out there who shouldn't be driving at 100mph, but there are also people out there who shouldn't be driving at 25mph. And, a pedestrian can easily be killed by a vehicle traveling at 25mph. But, I don't believe that 100mph is, in itself, unreasonable under the right circumstances and conditions for the right driver in the right car. We should all learn and respect our limits. The problem is that your limit is different than mine. Or the OP's. Or everyone else in the world's. As far as getting ticketed? We get caught, we pay the price. Period. It's easy to be holier than thou on the subject, but I'm tired of people imposing their own limitations on everyone else in the world.

And, to Glassman, bad things do happen even when everyone obeys the law, but the first knee-jerk reaction always seems to be to sue. I mean it's not even a veiled threat. Boy, it's sure great to live in the land of the lawyers. Why don't we address the real problem: totally inadequate driver education and training. We may be able to minimize risk, but we can't regulate it out. In the meantime, though, you're sure trying to kill some of the fun of owning a high performance car. Must be a hoot to drive the speed limit 24x7x365.

For the most part, speed limits are a farce (55mph on an interstate?). Posted limits are far below the capabilities of a well-maintained, modern car with an attentive, competent driver in good, safe conditions. If conditions permit, I say it's alright...no, it's more than that...it's AMERICAN to exercise your liberties to an extent. Indeed, this country was founded on the fact that we didn't like the rules! As long as you understand the risks, reduce them and don't put others in great danger, I say enjoy yourself. Everyone accepts some measure of risk when they walk outside their door in the morning. When you drive on the roads, you accept the fact that there are true loons in the cars around you sometimes. If one can't judge distance by an attentive glance in the mirror, then maybe they shouldn't be driving, either. I suppose that's for the DMV to figure out, but show me the last time the DMV pulled someone's license for stupidity on the road that wasn't ticketed by a LEO who happened to be there, see it and ticket the behaviour?

Yes, traffic fatalities are tragic and are avoidable in many cases. So, they are senseless losses, and they are terrible to the families of the injured or deceased. True enough. But, I'll bet you that there are more deaths from cholesterol each year than from car accidents. Yes, speed may make the injuries worse in the event of an accident, but speed, in itself, is not the problem. It's speed without control, lack of respect for limits and poor high performance driving skills.

CW

 

If this is your first ticket in North Carolina, there's a certain plea you can enter. I don't remember what it's called, but it actually has a sort of religious ring in the name - hopefully someone here knows what I'm talking about. In a few days, you'll start receiving letters in the mail from all sorts of local NC attorney. Contact one and pay them the $200 (or whatever it is) fee; you won't even have to go to court with them.

 

the jesus christ clause?

 

"....I believe that a high rate of speed is not inherently dangerous given the right conditions...."

If only the science was on your side you would have a chance of giving a more convincing response. NHSTA has done study upon study that show the frequency, seriousness of injury, and amount of property damage sustained in a traffic collision have a direct relationship to speed. Many of us like to drive our cars fast but unfortunately facts are facts.

"..But, I'll bet you that there are more deaths from cholesterol each year than from car accidents."

You are correct. According to the CDC Almost 700,000 people die of heart disease in the U.S. each year. However they don't give tickets for supersizing at Mc Donalds or over eating. Do you think that would be a good idea ? I don't.

By the way, over 43,000 people died in traffic collisions last year. Over 2,699,000 were injured seriously enough to report it.

Bottom line. Enjoy your car, but race on the track.

Regards,

Stew

 

No, it doesn't. Attempting to merge onto a 5 lane highway at the speed limit or less will get you run over by an 18-wheeler before you can get out of the first lane. It's a lot of fun being stuck behind something that can go the speed limit to assist with merging but the driver chooses not to. What determines the allowable speed are the conditions, not what an inanimate sign on the side of the road displays and certainly not road conditions somewhere else other than at the scene of this violation.

It's not semantics, it's common sense. Was this driver safe for the given conditions? I haven't read the regional thread/duplicate and I really don't care. Your speed limit in a residential neighborhood compared to my example just illustrates the science behind our speed limits is flawed at worst to allow a higher rate of speed on a more densely populated road with far more variables (people, visual obstruction, less manueverability unless its 3 lanes wide each direction) and neither of our examples has any bearing on the conditions of the road at the time of the violation.

Get into an accident on the M25 going faster than our posted limits one car length apart and you will be a believer how dangerous our space cushions are. They are called bumpers, not accident barricades, for a reason. If a tree falls, a bear ****s, if I speed on an empty street, it's still a 40mph road isn't it?

 

Study after study shows that dealing drugs, carrying firearms, and gangbanging has a direct relationship to persecution and personal injury. I'll never figure out how those NHSTA folks got so smart.

If it's so dangerous, why aren't speeders put in jail after the second offense? It's a crazy idea, I know, but give it time. I had my after dinner grande-latte enema. Ever point out to police officer their blinkers aren't working? Their reaction is gold, absolute f'ing gold.

That depends on who else is there. There might be a renegade Corvette driver left braking a Porsche into people in the pit.

 

um, no. high rates of speed are inherently more dangerous than doing the speed limit. I'm no rocket scientist, but crash a car at 50, then crash a car at 100, lemme know which one you're more likely to walk away from.

can you show me a court record where a judge or jury felt that double the speed limit was the safe thing to do?

Well, if it wasn't, no one would watch NASCAR would they.

That's absurd. Do you want granny doing 85 or 90? How about a rookie 16 year old testosterone laden kid? Speed limits are there for a reason. Yeah, maybe they are aimed at the least common denominator, but until you tell that 90% of the driving public to stay home, that's where you have to aim.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MY SKILLS, IT'S ABOUT THE SKILLS OF THOSE AROUND YOU.

do you have statistics for high speed crashes on the autobahn? And, is there not a movement afoot to slow that particular roadway down? Wanna test your limits? Hit the track. Wanna test the limits of those around you? Drive 100 mph on I95.

There are laws agains that, too. I've seen a car or two in my time doing under the limit on the highway get stopped for that, believe it or not.

BUT for sure, he's gonna get killed if you're doing 100, and there's no chance you'll be abale to avoid hitting him at that speed.

Your post is simply an inverse holier than thou post. You'd like to impose your NON limit, on the unsuspecting public. Wanna go 100, go to the track. Drive 100 in PA, go to jail. 1st offense, 2nd offense, don't care. And, you'll lose you privledge to drive for a year, too.

So, putting others in SOME DANGER, knowingly, is ok? and 100 in a 55 zone is a little more than some danger. IT's reckless. Have an accident and kill someone at that speed, and see what they charge you with. It ain't gonna just be speeding. And when the dust settles on the lawsuits, your estate isn't gonna have a plugged nickel in it.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

Just wondering, you don't drive in SE PA much, do you?

DM

 

PJC Prayer for judgement continued (or something to that effect).