"Mothers" F40 for sale

Martin - it's time to get over this attachment to the initials LM anywhere with regards to this car. The only acceptable description is that it is a rebuilt F40 modified to look like an LM. If you had to put it next to a factory (Michelotto) built LM it would be as different as if you had put a Porsche GT3 RS next to a real LM. It just looks like an LM from a distance, but to paraphrase Sen. Lloyd Bentsen - I know an F40LM and sir, that is not an F40LM.

I really believe that you must stop perpetuating Roland's misrepresentation and call it what it is - a rebuilt, salvage title F40. I'll still pay $250k it.

 

We have enjoyed meeting Roland, and we're glad he moved to our area and has become a friend-we know the past and we are not judgemental. Long live Roland, and the F40 that was saved.




Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:51 pm:

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Since people ask what I put in the car and that's including every little details like chrome, spare wheels, special tools, pads etc...even the nitro for the inboard jacks, I'm at less than, $ 400.000.00. Who said that this not smart to do and I have a NEW car, with NEW everything, hard bushing,gear box, motor,brakes, new body, seats , names it... Just the frame is original with the mods and the box case. I think that I have a hell of different car than a stock F40 for a fraction of a well used so call "real" LM

 

+1....


or rebuilt f40 with added F40LM style/specs

 

I don't think you'll find a VIN on the steering column of a real F40LM either.

 

Looks like that flat rectangular area on the column might be it on this real LM: http://ferraris-online.com/pages/imgview.php?reqcardir=FE-F40LM-97881&imgnum=P033

 

Sounds great and will capture a lot but is way too long.

 

There is a good well thought through idea. Lets keep this on the list. Thanks.

 

I like that one as well.

 

Could be. The ones I've seen didn't have that and I've seen other race Ferraris with that rectangular area but without the actual VIN plate. But maybe this is getting too much OT.

 

Yep...Mike you won't win that one. Tried to explain to him that all cops are bad until proven nice but he just does not want any aprt of that

 

With that you would imply the whole car is a replica when in fact it is not. It is an F40, it does not and never had a salvage title, it has the correct VIn and the VIN plate.

 

LOL.....that is why I call the car with the GT parts (and yes our parts are fully acredited GrandAM regulated and approved parts) as a 360 Challenge GT.

But then I am sure someone will come with the idea that it is not a GT and I am trying to stir up trouble.

 

Bud, you don't know what you are talking about. Sorry to tell you. The steering vin plate is a plastic plate that is glued on your steering column cover. The real Vin is on the frame of the car and yes it is where it needs to be!

 

Okay so we have:

F40 LM Recreation
F40 LM Homage

Lets see.
We will make a change tomorrow. I will let you know. I like both.

 

I vote for F40 LM Homage. It has the sense that you are trying to honor the image and style of a "real" F40 LM. After all, this car is a really neat car. It is probably better built and better running than most (all?) F40's out there and just looks like somebody really tried to do a good job everywhere on this car. As I said, it would be a really neat toy for somebody. (And after all, aren't all of these type cars just "toys" anyway?)

Martin, Sell the baby for as much as you can get! It's called capitalism, isn't it?
(At least until Hillary takes over!)

 

Cool, how 'bout 'F40 BMF'?

 

Martin, are you saying the f40 does not have a VIN plate # on top of the steering wheel ? Or the f40lm ?

 

The F40 does for sure. The LM I am not sure in either way to say the car is worthless without the plastic plate on the steering wheel or to say that THAT makes the car or imply that that p[lat gives legitimacy to any Ferrari is a joke. You can swap them out for a little screwdriver in a matter of minutes.

His point was: "How can anyone buy a ferrari without that most valuable part?"
My point: that little plastic plate is worth $8.50, because that is what it will cost you to make a new one. If that is the most valuable part of any Ferrari....why are we paying these insane amounts of money for our cars?

 

We will have the name issue resolved by tomorrow morning and will "revise" the original description and make it into a "Replica Ferrari Description"

 

Considering as a sports racing car it didn't really win anything and could thus be considered a dismal failure results wise, why is there such a premium for a LM over a standard F40?

 

Because it's still a rare Ferrari.

 

I think the point is that the VIN is important to trace the car and verify. To say a VIN is so unimportant ($8.50)then people spend money on buying fakes.
Having the VIN is the most important part on these cars, you know that Martin.

 

I disagree with Martin on a lot regarding this car, but his point was that the only important place for the VIN is where it is stamped into the chassis. The vin labels anywhere else in the car are simply that - attached labels. If this car still has the piece of the chassis where the factory stamped the original VIN it is good to go for identification as a Ferrari, but as an F40 not an LM.

 

Yep, I suppose it is but the comp 550's won 10 times more and they aren't selling for that kind of money are they. I don't know what other recent comp Ferrari's there are to compare it to.

 

Yeah, but 550's were production cars and F40's were....F40's.

Personally, I'd rather have the 550!