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"Mothers" F40 for sale

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by nerd, Apr 29, 2007.

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  1. Willis360

    Willis360 F1 Rookie

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    Just call it: F40 modified

    It's probably best to leave out words like LM and replica for this car.
     
  2. aventino

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    yeah but the 550 was designed for a competition that existed and abided by a set of rules. There wasn't even a competition class that the f40 fitted into which is why I don't really understand the LM or this modified thing the thread talks about. It's got all this track gear on it making it quicker and it still isn't eligible for anything.

    Surely a 333sp or the comp 550 would make more sense?
     
  3. tomgt

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    512 BBLM ---- 512 BBLM conversion
    Daytona Competition -------- Daytona Competition conversion
    250 GTO ------- 250 GTO recreation
    512 S ------- 512 S recreation

    so maybe F40 LM conversion is the best for this F40
    is is not like the SWB replica based on an other car (250 GTE) so a recreation but based on a street (burned) F40, so conversion is a good 'title'

    Just my 2 cents
     
  4. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    In fact they are.
     
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    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    I think you need to read more. He is referring to the plastic VIN plate on the steering column.
    As I said, the only IMPORTANT VIN identification is: the stamped chassis not some plastic plate. Those are simply there to comply with US regulations requiring each road car to have the VIN clearly identifiable through the window. The reason why you have VINs showing on the drivers side (usually on the dash) in any of your cars.

    Please read before you guys post replies.
     
  6. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    The 550 or 575 GTC is the sexiest car ever built by Ferrari (my opinion).
    Now the Aston Martin DBR9 just barely beats the 550/575 though :)
     
  7. Cavallino Motors

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    Neither is the FXX eligible for any racing series.
     
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    !!!!!! Decision is made!!!!!!

    We will change the title today to:

    Ferrari F40 Modificata
     
  9. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 F1 Rookie

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    Martin I understand what you are saying. But does it have a VIN that complies with US regulations? In other words one that can be seen through the window?
     
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    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    Jay, you need to reread....thats the official answer he will tell you.

    You dont know anything about f40s is his next thing. Dont bother...he knows it all when it comes to these cars.
     
  11. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Couple of things. F40 LM's competed in Le Mans in the equivalent of the GT class of today. Don't know what the class was called in the late 80's or early 90's but they did race at Le Mans for a period. Also, they raced in sports car racing similar to the European Le Mans series of today.

    Regarding the premium over standard F40, the F40 LM were touched by Michelotto which adds value to any Ferrari, regardless if they won or not.

    -F
     
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    I thought that although the F40 raced in Le Mans style competitons, it never raced at Le Mans in the 24 hour event. Is that wrong?
     
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    The F40 did race at Le Mans several times and with several teams. The F40 raced in the BPR GT series against McLaren F1s, Porsches, Venturis, Lotus etc. and were competitive and won a few races. It also raced in the USA with some good placings against the mighty Audis. That's good enough in my book to give it race credential. It didn't win major championships (unless you count the Italian GT series). I'm talking about the F40 in general so including all the different versions (street, LM, GTE etc).

    Best, Peter
     
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    Good idea Martin, I knew you would come up with a name that was accurate and respectful of this car and the work Roland put into it...

    That is a cool name!

    Martin is a class act, I would not hesitate to buy a car from him...

    Chris
     
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    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    LMs are worth that money because they are rare, beasty , based on the F40 and from a golden age of Gt Racing. Remember the BPR serie ? Probably the best series since the end of the Sport Protos in the 70s.

    Also, they will probably sky rocket as soon as they become eligible to the Ferrari Challenge.
     
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    Martin, nice to see your are changing the ad.
     
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    Martin isn't the issue - the 600K might give you pause :)

    My $250K is still on the table Martin.
     
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    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    Let me help you out on your offer.

    If, and that is if, which is never but IF Roland would ever sell this car for $250,000 I would buy that car myself and use it just as Roland does, as a perfect reliable street car for the rest of my life. In fact I would pay $251,000 just to make sure that I offer more than your offer.

    The qork done on the car far exceeds your offer. If you were to replicate the car today you are looking for more than double that. So, although your offer is apreciated, it is decliend.
     
  20. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    As for the ads and titles.
    We were racing this weekend in Daytona and had some computer problems us there with the internet (motorhome) so we will get all this done by Monday.

    I have advised Forza already of the change. Race-Cars.com will take a few days.
     
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    It is nice to be appreciated :)
     
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    Chris:
    thanks for the kind words.

    It is not easy to please everybody at the same time. I am sure that will be the case here as well. There will be some that will still say that I am hyping the car and that it is a replica and that it is not a Ferrari but a Fiero and so on.

    Thanks to all for the suggestions on the title. It was a close toss up between 3 that best represent the actual facts of the car.

    The car certainly is a "homage" to the LM. It was built with the LM spirit. Yes it is not a 1:1 exact copy of the original LMs but has been improved in many ways to make it street drivable as well as 100% reliable. Roland has proven that point in thousands of miles. Spitired drives from CO to Canada and back as well as recent drives in the Orlando area and from NC to Atlanta and back. I would not attempt that with the real thing. :)
     
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    I really dont see what the bickering is all about, as long as people know the history about it, there shouldn't be a problem! Since after how many pages of this thread with arguments stating this and that all for what? it doesn't make it any less of a car than it really is.
     
  24. Cavallino Motors

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    I feel the same way. Most of the bickering is more about who owns the car than anything else.
    Nothing new that everybody has their own opinion. Just as we have those that believe a Ferrari with 20,000 Miles has surpassed its usefull life...
     
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    I am astonished that so many people have made a long study of this subject?
    I have quoted what I believe the most well thought out statement on this thread. Thank you Jim.

    David
     

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