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  1. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I must be watching a different series of races.
    If MS/Button/Etc/Etc had been paired with the current world champion in their rookie year and had beaten or tied him in every race,( you must exclude team orders) then we would have a more accurate measuring stick.
    MS's (or anyone elses) rise was not because of his results, but because of how he compared to his then teammate in an equal car.
     
  2. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    LOL :D

    I have a 355 and I recently bought an E550 4Matic, I am horribly conflicted.

    Fortunately my track car is a Porsche... :p
     
  3. tifosi12

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    I have a Ferrari and a Toyota. I can't make up my mind whom to root for. Life is hard.
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    We choose together !! I always seem to choose an underdog and honda it was last year followed by merc i always wanted macca get beat but now i love ferrari so much suggestions please


     
  5. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Underdog AND Ferrari? Easy:
    You can choose from 2 TR-Ferraris and 2 Spyker-Ferraris.
     
  6. Senna3xWC

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    LOL

    How bad must that Spyker chassis be if they are struggling so much with a Ferrari-engined car?
     
  7. tifosi12

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    It must be horrendous. Of course those drivers aren't a big help either.
     
  8. PhilNotHill

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    This is literally true...if you are trying to finish in FIRST PLACE. :)

    Note: Lewis has yet to win a race this year...but he will...soon, I'm afraid. :(
     
  9. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I could nt expect anything else as its a ferrarichat forum! but if scott speed was in a McLaren I wouldnt have a problem



     
  10. DriveAfterDark

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    Don't mean to hate or something, but IMHO I think we're facing a really good F1 season after M. Schumacher's retiring.

    It is so refreshing to see Massa, Raikkonen, Lewis and Alonso fight against eachother - rather than Schumi vs. Alonso like the boring 2006 season......
     
  11. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I agree but it was sweet seeing schmac only just beat

     
  12. ATBNM3

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    Renault lost the best test driver... Alonso. Lewis knows the in working of an F1 car better than any driver on the track. He's spent the last half of his life at in back shops at McLaren. They've been teaching and he's been learning. He is McLaren and like Shumi he can develope a car and give excellent feed back in the terms the engineers speak. He's been showing this week that again he's the fastest driver in the field. What you don't get is this is not a fluke this has been the plan since he was 11.
     
  13. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    Lewis began setting records when he became the only teenager to be signed by a Formula team. He was the youngest ever World Karting No.1.

    In 2003 in Formula Renault, he had 10 wins, 9 fastest laps, 11 poles and won the Championship 2 rounds before the final race. (Sound familar???)

    Medicore year in F3 Euroseries in 2005 -> finished 5th.

    2005 he won the F3 Championship driving for ASM (a new team that year).

    2006 GP2 Champion - he joined ART (Jean Todt's son's team) as a replacement for Nico. Lewis is the only driver in GP2 history to score double race wins and won Monaco from pole position.

    Pretty impressive record thus far.

    Carol
     
  14. ferraridude615

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    Lewis driving skill is simply stunning, but to rewrite the F1 history book one needs a tremendous car, one leaps and bounds better than the rest. I don't see another car dominating the sport like the Ferrari did between 2000-2004. Not only did Ferrari have the best driver they had a car that was much better than the second best, which enabled Schumacher to win 12 out of the first 13 races in a season (should have been 13 out of 13 if JPM hadn't taken him out in the tunnel). With all the engine freezes, technological slow downs, I can't see McLaren or the team Lewis is on building a car like those Ferraris.
    He will have to prove himself on his driving ability (which he has plenty of) and instead of breaking Schumacher's records.
     
  15. Senna1994

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    +1 and I don't think the Schumacher Era will ever be repeated. His situation was truly different in the last 50 years of F1. Clark had something similar, but the Lotuses or any cars in that era did not last like the reliability of the cars in this era.
     
  16. ferraridude615

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    Bernie won't let it happen either, too many dumb rules to slow down the sport.
     
  17. Senna1994

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    I think you have more to worry about with Mosley than Bernie, Bernie has been a true racer than Mosley ever was.
     
  18. ferraridude615

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    I think the TV ratings went down when Schumacher dominated, so Bernie wouldn't want that to happen again. So he'd complain to Max to make some bogus rules, like you can only drive with one hand or have 3 wheels.
     
  19. Scuderia980

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    FA still couldn't help Renault... losing him is not the reason for their lackluster car. No one is doubting Hamiltons ability/potential...I never said anything about a fluke...so please don't insinuate...my point was that drivers don't build the cars...in the end, it comes down to the designer, and the engineers... ie...Ferrari had MS--the ULTIMATE feedback driver, the fastest out there, according to many-- in 2005, and they weren't competitive...the car was crap with those bridgestones...that's just one example. Hamiliton's future/success will not be ENTIRELY up to him...that's what i'm getting at.
     
  20. Senna1994

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    LOL it won't be repeated, there will never ever be another Driver that so much had control over a team or a series like Michael had. Although I am a true Senna fan, now that Michael is gone, I appreciate so much more what he did. Had he been in that F2007 he would have won every single race. Regardless of where he started in the first race like Massa did. That is the only tragedy of him not racing in 2007 with Kimi, I think he would have had the measure of him for the first half. That is another reason Kimi will never be considered in the same breath as a Senna or Schumacher, they stamped their authority on the team from the first race. Kimi did so far only in the first race and has not been anything better since.
     
  21. Senna1994

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    LOL it won't be repeated, there will never ever be another Driver that so much had control over a team or a series like Michael had. Although I am a true Senna fan, now that Michael is gone, I appreciate so much more what he did. Had he been in that F2007 he would have won every single race. Regardless of where he started in the first race like Massa did. That is the only tragedy of him not racing in 2007 with Kimi, I think he would have had the measure of him for the first half. That is another reason Kimi will never be considered in the same breath as a Senna or Schumacher, they stamped their authority on the team from the first race. Kimi did so far only in the first race and has not been anything better since.
     
  22. Senna1994

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    LOL it won't be repeated, there will never ever be another Driver that had so much control over a team or a series like Michael had. Although I am a true Senna fan, now that Michael is gone, I appreciate him so much more for what he did. Had he been in that F2007 he would have won every single race. Regardless of where he started in the first race like Massa did, he would have won. That is the only tragedy of him not racing in 2007 with Kimi, I think he would have had the measure of him for the first half. That is another reason Kimi will never be considered in the same breath as a Senna or Schumacher, they stamped their authority on the team from the first race. Kimi did so far only in the first race and has not been anything better since.
     
  23. maxorido

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    Yeah If Michael was in the Ferrari opposite Kimi, there would be no question who was better. Honestly though, I don't think it's impossible for Alonso to achieve the same number of championships as Michael. He's only 25 years old with two titles already! That's amazing! If he were in F1 for another 10-12 years, he'd surely be driving for the best teams. More championships are surely in the future for him, but another five? That's the question!
     
  24. Scuderia980

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    i agree, if MS was still driving, he would've won all four races, barring mech problems...I don't think Alonso will win 5 more-maybe a couple more?...to upstage MS, FA's team would have to pull what Ferrari did...and nowadays, the numbnuts in charge of F1 just wont let that happen again... it was a unique era that gave MS his records... but then again, nothing is certain, nothing is for granted :)
     
  25. Senna1994

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    James, the Championships may come, but more difficult with a guy like Lewis at McLaren, however the Wins will never match Michaels. Michael's commitment to F1 and Racing was just like Ayrton's, if not more. In fact, Bernie used to say a cigarette paper divided their talent. The person that may come close IMHO is Lewis not Fernando.
     

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