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Best version of the Diablo (ie. base, VT, 6.0)

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  1. jvmax

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    So i have been looking at some Diablo's, base (non-VT) rear wheel drive and VT (all-wheel drive) are the 2 choices in the 1990's. Which one to get and which one to stay away from?
     
  2. kev360

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    I like the late model cars. You can't go wrong with either. I have a 99SV in 2wd and a 6.0 in 4wd. I like the SV better but from a more emotional standpoint ( it just looks unbelievable). Don't know much about the earlier diablos. There are several late model cars for sale on the net including SVs and VTs. Good luck on the search.
     
  3. SDChris

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    Well from MY94 until MY98 when the SV came out they are are all VT's..The SV is rear wheel drive...In MY95 Lamborghini came out with Roadster until MY99..

    The best cars are the 6.0 and the Diablo roadster esp. MY97.5-99...they are very hot and getting harder to find good ones, right now there are 12 MY95-MY99 Roadster on the market!

    The 6.0's !!! Very high demand and will continue to go up in value (so will the roadster), infact they all have..

    In 1997.5 the Roadster came with airbags where earlier cars did not even the early 1997's. In MY98 the cars went from 490 hp to 530, still have the airbags, larger wheels and ABS. The cars in MY99 are the same except for the dash...IMO the 97.5-99 roadster are the best you can get right now but the 6.0 is right there..the same in fact imo!
     
  4. jvmax

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    thanks for the responses, I was actually looking at pre-94 Diablo's. thoughts??
     
  5. kev360

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    Don't know anything about pre 94 diablos. Should be plenty of help here though.
     
  6. SDChris

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    The Pre 94's are great cars, i know Andrew (MidwestLambo LCA Midwest) has a 91...Most of the cars built between 91-and early MY93 ware built in 91...maybe there are a few late MY93's with VT..

    Many love the fact that the Pre-94's are drivers cars, no power streeing and no VT...In fact Andrew's 91 is for sale, major service and clutch has been done...I will post pics here in a few..but it is super clean and is drivers car!

    I will ask Andrew post in here and give his views!
     
  7. ralfabco

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    Never had a 91. - However that was the D car, that I was actually looking to buy.

    91 has a stiff clutch, no power steering, brakes are not as good as the later cars (no abs), and a large instrument cluster. In my opinion, manual steering is much better to have, when the car is driven on fast back roads. I did not care for p.s. on a D car.


    It is also amongst the fastest of the bunch, due to the fact that the 91/92/93 models 2wd, do not have a lot of additional items (awd, power steering, lift system, and additional weight etc...) included with the car. You also do not have the potential problems, with the adjustable shocks.



    With a 91, be sure to check, if the chain tensioner has been updated !!!!

    Check the clutch.

    I do not know if it is true, but I heard from somewhere, to also inspect the catalytic convertors, and make sure they have not been filled up.

    Another advantage with the 91's, is that they are fully depreciated (this also applies to most of the Diablo autos), and they cannot lose a dime. - You will simply pay for maintainance. Make sure you have the car mechanically inspected. They are the best genuine 200mph, bargain exotic supercars you can find.
     
  8. Kelsa

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    6.0 and 99 Roadster can be more expensive than some 02 murcie...

    the road presence of a Diablo is magical.
     
  9. SDChris

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    I will second everything suggested here, and add that if you can find one that everything has been done and mantained, then consider it! The prices should be on good clean with service complete MY91-MY93 (if you can find them) is $110k-$135k....
     
  10. SDChris

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    Think of it like this are only 2 MY98 Roadster for sale right now, and are near in price to the MY02 Murcielago...these cars have been on the raise for the last year as they become harder and harder to find, and with good histories!
     
  11. roytoy2003

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    IMO NOTHING beats the 6.0...I would give up all the other cars I have prior to letting my 6.0 SE go...Thats why BOTH of My SE cars are priced so HIGH on my web...

    Dont really want to sell them...BUT the way things have been going the last 6-9 months, it really is not looking out of the possabilty...maybe I SHOULD RAISE THE PRICE?? LOL LOL
     
  12. RoWis

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    I totally Agree 6.0 SE's are very good looking cars, I wouldn't wanna sell them if I had one!
     
  13. BlueBiturbo

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    How about a Diablo SE 30 ? I think it is 1995 model
     
  14. roytoy2003

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    30th year SE is 1994 for the USA. Only 25 made it here.

    I have 1 of 3 red ones produced, also on my web site.

    It is a 2 wheel drive car and SCREAMS down the street...

    They as the 2001 6.0 SE, had differnt gearing and are considerbly lighter. The valve covers, as in both cars, are made of magnisium and use a differnt chain drive system. 94 SE also has larger ports, differnt exhaust, magnisium wheels, different front bumper, lower to the ground, suspension, plastic windows, etc etc..

    I know of only mine for sale currently in the USA. It has 1200 miles on it.
     
  15. kane00

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    USA 1994 30SE
    10 Purple
    9 Red
    3 Black
    2 Yelow
    1 White

    I have the factory sheet with VIN, original dealer and option list. Let me know if you want me to send you a copy.
    Looking forward to seeing you on the 9th. Should be a blast!

    Keith
     
  16. Tomf-1

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    That's what I thought as well BUT not quite true.......After owing practically every year of Diablos from 91 to 01, I thought I know everything about them but...I was WRONG.

    Due to the demand for 2wd capabilities, Lamborghini in 1996 produced a very limited (approximately 15) number of 2wd Diablo...This rare Diablos are equiped with all the new and improved technologies of the newer and later year Diablos (power steering, front lifts, generally better engines) and factory 2wd...the best of both world.

    Per Lamborghini of N.A, less than 10 of them were made for the USA. These cars are nothing short of INCREDIBLE to drive and in my opinion, it performs even better than the 6.0 You might ask how I know? Well, I OWN ONE. :)
     
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    I'm biased but 6.0's all the way.
     
  19. roytoy2003

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    Yes, please send it to me...and you are correct, I think i was thinking of the 1999 Diablo Roadster...was it that car that here was 3 or 4 reds for USA??


    Send direct to me at [email protected]

    Thanks See you June 9th....
     
  20. SFchallenge

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    Why is it that a 6.0SE worth more than an early Murcie?

    Is it because of the production nos? & that it's a so called last of the true Italian? But it was lightly styled by Doncke & under Audi.

    I wanted a 6.0SE but after driving it here, was't so impressed. It was running rough, gearbox a little stiff, parts of the car are falling apart (windscreen delaminating, door pockets broken & door seals torn) wasn't as fast as my Gallardo & the ECU shocks are expensive to replace & was thinking maybe I should have a Murcielago 6speed. Maybe the eg. I drove wasn't in best shape but will the value of a Diablo 6.0 & SE really go up?

    I see the value of 512TR & M depreciating. Both are similar icons IMO though Ferrari made more of those but there's more buyers for Ferraris than Lambos generally.
     
  21. roytoy2003

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    If you look over the past 24 months you will see the 6.0 cars have held steady and increased in most cases....the Murcie has continued its under 200K cost for 02 and now some 03 cars, however the Murice in the last 3 months or so has held, I think due to the lack of LP640 units and their new price.

    You must also take into account that the 6.0 and 6.0 SE is one year and one year only, never to be reproduced...where the Murcie is today and tomorrow and easily replaceable car should you be looking for one, the 6.0 is not.
     
  22. SDChris

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    Just My 2 cents...As for the Murcielago's the asking price has increased alot over the last month, based on true market avaiblity and color. The MY03 cars are on the raise once again, with some cars topping the $220k mark! The MY02's are also on the raise, though just at or just below $200k.

    The 6.0's are some what all over the board, and alot depends on the color and history of the car. Cars that have not had major service and clutch replaced, and questionable cars, (such as the blue one) are not bringing top dollar...Color plays a major role in value as well! Cars that are rare in color and top notch condetion will bring the most value both in retail asking price as well as resale, and wholesale! The 6.0's values have remained on the raise for over 2 years, and once again for good clean cars will stay on the raise!

    The long term outlook on the MY01-MY03 is they will remain there trend upwards, as cars become harder to come by and find to ones with good history! As time goes on and more buyers are able to afford to purchase a Lamborghini the older models demand will out way supply, making the prices go higher...I do not, based on data collected since January 2006, see any trends that would lead the prices, to go down or lose value, simply, because of what I stated above more buyer can afford to buy a Lamborghini now, and many choose to buy a Diablo over a Gallardo, and MY02-MY03 Murcielago over an MY04..IMO!
     
  23. kane00

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    Any current Lamborghini is going to fall in price due to the large amount of cars produced. There are very few 6.0's and very, very, few ones that are in great shape and run well. Therefore their value is higher.

    Last week I checked DuPont for LP640's. There were 25 for sale. That is a whole lot of 400K cars to have sitting around.

    Keith
     
  24. SDChris

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    40% of all Lamborghini's markets right now have been sold for a number of months...They are left on dupont and other websites to produce leads...The production numbers of the Murcielago's are very low and new buyers can buy.. demand right now is out stripping suppley...These cars are rare anyway you look at it! And the 6.0's with less then 150 built, and to find good ones that have complete service and no story is hard the demand is high-I see way more buyer that are first time Lamborghini owners, and lamborghini is there first exotic...

    EST:

    Models built in 2002
    442 Murcielagos and 40% to the US market.
    176 US cars.

    Models built in 2003
    425 Murcielagos and 40% to the US market
    157 US cars.

    Models built in 2004
    304 Murcielagos and 40% to the US market
    212 US cars.

    Models built in 2005
    464 Murcielagos (Both Coupe and Roadster)
    185 US cars.
     
  25. roytoy2003

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    There MAY be 25 AD'S...But there ARE NOT 25 Lp640 cars available...that is a fact...from my knowledge of what is out there with Dealers...to BUY TODAY off of the floor.......is almost ZIP for new...there are a few "used" my count 3...MSRP on the car is closer to $365K...

    The Glaardo, alittle bit differnt story...yes more of those on the floor including the Spyder...

    I dont htink a $300K REAL NICE 6.0 in 2010 is out of the question...
     

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