6.0L F430

I assume this is not a practical joke???

 

I don't buy it.

 

I'm skeptical too... Seems unlikely.

But the obvious next question is will they bore a 599GTB engine as well?

 

It's a special offer in conjunction with the King of Zimbabwe. He will transfer ten million U.S. dollars into your account, and you pay for the upgrade with the interest generated. So send your account number in the e-mail...

 

Im confused.

The car posted is an F430 GT3. A race car. But you say ferrari will offer a 6.0 for road cars ?

The 360 GT you posted was a one off for a US client . A 360 GT road car. A friend of the owner posted here.

 

Cool pics Rory! Are you thinking about doing it to the 430?

 

+1...A ilegal car for the roads...

 

What's it cost to upgrade? Will the car be still covered under warranty?

 

Awesome pics F11

 

why not just post this info you have so we all dont have to email you.

 

Very interesting upgrade if available. I would definitely be interested in performing such an upgrade if the costs were reasonable.

 

BIG bucks me thinks.

 

An F430 with 700hp would blow the doors off of anything on the road...

 

Okay...so somebody who calls themselves F11, but doesnt give us a name claims to have the "in" for the Factory to build engines in multiple sizes and be released for the street....

Never mind the NHTSA or DOT or the certification process. Ferrari doesnt even want people putting Tubis on in the USA anymnore, but they are willing to build and certify for road use one off engines.....and spend the time to develop and program the engine management etc...

yet with just an email to "f11" you can have the magic engine...?

...nope I dont buy it either. So I called a dealer...he had a good laugh with me.

Lets see a letter, or any information from the factory which shows this option and its availability.

 

Nice photos from carozeria Zanasi...

 

If the info provided is true, hot damn!!!!

 

Here is the math behind the "OEM" 6.0 liter upgrade as you call it.

On the stock 430 engine, the cylinder is already 92 mm with a stroke of 81 mm. If you compute the volume of a single cylinder, it's 538.455 cc. Multiply that by 8 and you get the 4.307 liters of the Ferrari 430 motor.

Okay, in order to bump that up to 6.000 liters by "boring it out" without changing the stroke or going to a V10, etc, that means your bore is going to have to be increased to a diameter of roughly 108.5 mm.

In other words, you are talking about an increase of 16.5 mm in total bore diameter, or 8.25 mm on each side of the cylinder. Don't forget this has to occur on each cylinder, so you are taking about removing 16.5 mm away from the meat between the cylinders. That's about .65 inches. In the world of "boring out your motor", .040 of an inch (1 mm) is considered pretty normal, while usually 2mm is where you start to worry about the walls of the cylinder flexing under high RPM's. 16 mm's? There just isn't enough room between cylinders unless you are going to use some very thin sleeve made from titanium or something. Even then, you need new pistons, rings, head gasket, etc. and I don't think there is that sort of room on the 430 block.

Also, not only would this require a different head gasket, it would probably require a different cylinder head - since your compression ratio would be shot through the roof when you increased the displacement of the cylinder. The only other option would be to stroke the motor, but that would require a different crankshaft and probably different rods/pistons. Even then, for that large of a jump in displacement, you are probably taking about quite a bit more stroke. And again, unless you want your compression ratio above 20:1, then what are you going to do about the cylinder head volume? Plus, don't forget, the longer crank means a different rod angle as well.

Unless I'm missing something here, you are effectively talking about a totally different motor. At the very least, major internal changes. You don't just "bore out" the factory ferrari motor and go from 4.3 to 6.0 liters. No offense, but it just doesn't ring true.

Could Ferrari stick a 6 liter motor (probably a V10 motor) into a 430 - of course they could if they felt like it. Could they suddenly decide to offer an option on the 430 that pumps the power output above that of the Enzo? I suppose they could if they wanted to have drivers killing themselves left and right on the US highways. Could customers buy these upgrades if they were available? I'm sure with enough money and/or if you owned a country, they would be more than happy to do whatever you wanted.

But do you "bore out" the stock 430 motor and end up with a 6 liter power plant? Pretty unlikely if you ask me. Of course, I have been wrong in the past, so maybe you can provide some further details as to the internal changes and what exactly you are talking about here.

No offense, but you characterize all this like it's deciding between black or red calipers. Frankly, if anyone could bore the 430 motor out to even 4500cc, I'd be pretty impressed and curious about the modifications involved.

Ray

 

Because then we would all see the part about how you have to wire the money to Nigeria and how his friend will be waiting to receive your motor, and will then take it to Ferrari and UPS it back to you when ready...



Ray

 

I recall the interview with a rep from Ferrari on the CBS Sunday morning show a couple of weeks ago He said that the one option Ferrari never offers is a change to the engine.

Hey F11, go peddle your B.S. over at the Lambo forum. I hear their factory will make a 1 million horsepower engine !!