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  1. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    +1, actually one of the Spiker drivers is very impressive.

    I'm pretty confident we would have noticed LH in any car ... but yes he would not have the results.
    Pete
     
  2. asds3x

    asds3x Karting

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    Are you a ESL student or just a product of the US public school system?

    "idiot is you!" or "go sopport him" ? Are you dee dee dee?

    Moron, the boy (in this PC world can you use the term boy for him without somone getting their panties in a bunch?) has talent. If team FIAT has problems they need to dealt with. But for a driver to arrive at 2 venues he has never been to before and do what he has done it is special.
     
  3. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    Thanks guys, I was hoping for Kimi and Massa all the way, if you read my earlier posts, which the Moron from Tronto did not. I was explaining what a great talent Hamilton is. Not taking away from Ferrari. Emre your a putz with your lame 12 posts, go draw something on a napkin you Idiot.
     
  4. Der Meister

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    I think it mostly comes down to having the complete package.

    A good driver + and average car = Average performance (ex.. Vettle and the sauber)
    An average driver + a good card = Average performance (ex..Gencarlo,F. and the R-26)
    A good driver + a good car = great performance (no example needed)
     
  5. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Mclaren spent a massive amount of money a few yrs back building a new factory in woking the fruits of this now are coming to show ..As regards to hamilton He has the best car to get the job done right now but you cant take away the fact the only thing he has not done is make a mistake!!
     
  6. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    well, same here Tony. while i don't like seeing another driver other than Phil and Kimster winning, i'd rather have Hamilton winning.

    he's ice cool, barely makes mistakes, and yea..a perfect package. the only thing i never see him do is a proper overtaking on someone else ( well, it's not just him this season, almost every1 is impossible to overtake this season ).

    other than that, he keeps his mouth shut and gets his job done. and regarding his dad being in every race, i think it's a logical thing to do. he's been there for Hamilton since day 1, provided moral support, funded his early racing career, did 3 jobs at one time to fund Hamilton. so, it's a lot of hardship involved here.

    he's dad must be an extremely proud and happy father, for all those years of hard works is slowly paying off. so, i'm really happy for both of them, but it hurts seeing none of the Scuderia drivers winning at the moment.
     
  7. Anthony_Ferrari

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    Lewis is certainly an amazing talent. Would he have been as impressive in a Spyker? I don't know and nor does anyone else, however my opinion is that he would have impressed in any car. Of course he wouldn't be winning in a Spyker, but I think he'd be out-classing his team-mate.
    Only the most cynical would fail to be impressed by what Lewis has done so far. 7 races and 7 podiums is mightily impressive. At the moment his most amazing acheivement is that he has done so well in his debut season.
    However, before we get too carried away it is worth remembering that someone else managed to get 7 consecutive podiums in his debut season. Mr Villeneuve jnr is no longer thought of as the next big thing. Also Lewis's amazing achievements do need to be put into perspective against the greatest of all. Michael Schumacher managed 19 consecutive podiums! 2 atthe end of 2001 and then every race in 2002. Also, in 2004 he won 7 consecutive races! Will Lewis be able to beat that? I don't know. I sort of hope not as I want to see close battles, but I'm sure we'll all enjoy seeing him try. :)
     
  8. jakermc

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    If anyone is confused about what an exceptional talent LH is, remember that he is beating his teammate who is driving an identical car. Oh, and that other guy is also a 2 time and defending world champion.

    His last two races are even more incredible given the fact that he had never been to either track before. Anyone who club races knows the challenges of being fast at a place you have never been. Even his first practice laps were fast. He is a complete freak of nature - in a good way.

    Senna passed the throne to MS and now its LH's turn. I think we are watching the next truly dominant driver emerge. If he stays healthy and continues to drive good equipment he'll be untouchable. As a rookie, he'll only get better from here.
     
  9. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    +1

    I was going to post the exact same point. All this talk about Hamilton being flattered by the car is ridiculous once you put his performonce against Alonso's, who is in the exact same car. It is one thing to look good while driving a top car (like Massa), it is quite another to be out-driving the two-time defending WDC in the same car. While many drivers in F1 would look good driving the McLaren, I doubt anyone else could make Alonso look as bad as Hamilton is doing.

    We are witnessing history being made with Hamilton, years from now we will be talking about this season the way we do about Schumacher in his Jordan at Spa.
     
  10. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    nicely said.
     
  11. Boxer12

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    was FA running faster in qualifying 1:11's until the last stint? fuel loads? and during the race?
     
  12. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    I wonder how this would have played out if Kimi would have stayed at McLaren where he knew the team and the setups, etc and Fernando would have gone to Ferrari? The British Rags are reporting that they made the wrong switch. Any opinions?
     
  13. tifosi12

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    Hamilton would have destroyed Kimi just as much, but the Scuderia would be better off right now with Alonso in the cockpit.

    Here's hoping to 08: Alonso/Massa @ Ferrari.
     
  14. Senna1994

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    I would like to see Alonso/Massa as well, but I don't think Hammy would have destroyed Kimi as much, since Kimi knew the insides of the team and wasn't new like Alonso.
     
  15. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't buy into the team familiarity argument. They're all pros here and Kimi not performing at Ferrari has IMHO little to do with this being a new environment for him and much more with him not flipping the mental switch.

    BusinessF1 mag has an interesting article about how too cozy and comfortable Kimi's "relationship" to his personal trainer has become: The trainer is no longer chastising him and gives him carte blanche for training. As a result Kimi is currently at his heaviest.

    Finally: Kimi's relationship to Ron wasn't that great anymore last year. Part of it of course because of Alonso's early signing, but partly also because of years of frustration in breaking down McClonks.
     
  16. Fast Fiat

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    ....what is it with this country and the issue of 'black' vs 'white'...?! In case anyone hasn't noticed, Lewis himself does not make comment as to his colour or ethnicity. While many in the audience rant and rave about his being a 'black' racing driver, he just gets on with showing what a bunch of whining overpaid crybabies many of the other drivers are (hello Kimi....and Alonso...?). As esteemed an individual as Jackie Stewart declared last week that Lewis is the greatest rookie talent he has ever seen. Couldn't care less what colour he is. Besides, when he drives his head looks 'yellow' to me... ;-)
     
  17. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    here here nicely put




     
  18. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    The fact is his being black could very well end up helping F1 exposure in the USA...the USA media loves to cover black athelics and celebrities...so, if that happens, more in the USA may start pulling for him and help develop a larger F1 fan base here...maybe even Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will get on the fan wagon...as long as he doesn't date or marry a non-black women...
     
  19. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    with any luck Alonso may check this site and if folks keep banging on enough how we think he s playing second fiddle to hamilton and how we want him in the red car who knows
     
  20. Ferrari_lvr

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    Without a doubt this guy is a phenom. Ron Dennis did an amazing job of picking this kid out as a young'un. I will take nothing away from his talents at all, he certainly deserves all the credit he has been given, but he is driving a Mclaren. He might make it to Q2 in a Spyker, but he would not be doing what he is doing in a backmarker team. Yes he's an amazing talent, yes he is the one to challenge MS' achievements, and yes, I certainly look forward to watching him in the years to come. I'll bet I will at least have a job and my own house by the time he's done racing.
     
  21. GoFerrari28

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    Although this point was raised in another thread, it makes you wonder what development or recruiting program Ferrari should be developing to make sure they have plenty of talented drivers to pick from without all the normal contractual impediments.
     
  22. RP

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    Alonso at Ferrari is 99% unlikely, especially if Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher come back in some capacity. I can not think of one prominent Ferrari team member that likes Alonso. He burnt way too many bridges with Ferrari last year. Actually, I do not think many F1 fans like Alonso.

    Personally, I would consider finding another team to support if Alonso went to Ferrari. I certainly do not think he is better than Raikkonen.
     
  23. DriveAfterDark

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    Raikkonen will never be a F1 champion.
     
  24. Kami

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    I don't think we're going to see another MS anytime soon. Is he the next great and dominating driver? Yes. I've been a sceptic for a while but even I have to conceed. He's great, I don't think it's appropriate to compare him to MS. I still back Kimi and Fil as much as I did Michael but if one of them decides to leave, I'd love to see the Hamster in some red overalls.
     
  25. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Guys, guys, guys can we get our feet back on the ground please.

    He is a F1 rookie, that does NOT mean he has NOT raced before. Why are we acting like he has only just sat in a race car?. He is not a phenom, he has been racing since he was a kid and thus has spent something like 14 years of his life racing. F1 is just another racing car ... not something radically different from what he raced the year before.

    This season is very much like Jacques Villeneuve (who by the way got pole and would have won his very first F1 race if it was not for an oil leak and the forced reduction of pace to complete the race). JV won his 4th race.

    Please remember when you read and listen to the British press that they like to get a little excited. He may well win the WDC this year, but JV nearly did in his first year too, and so would Senna, etc. if he had not purposely started in a back runner car.

    LH is just a fast driver, he is not the second coming :D
    Pete
     

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