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How to fix door slamming????

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  1. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    My doors shut really hard, like they slam! Are there rubber bumpers that wear out that need to be replaced? Do I need to replace the door seals? Ricambi sent me some roll-pin replacements for the lower front hinges. It doesnt look like they need to be replaced, but maybe the springs BEHIND the little pins? (you can push the pins in really easy with your fingers) Sorry, didn't take a pic yet. anyone have any suggestions. Thanks in advance, Scott
     
  2. ernie

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    Don't Karate kick it closed. LOL!
     
  3. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    If you shut the door like any normal car it sounds like you slammed it shut really hard. I have to close the door to within 4-5inches and shut them. Otherwise it makes a really sickening slam! Scott
     
  4. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I know, I'm just bustin your balls.

    Mine does the same thing. It has to do with the spring rate in the locking mechanism, and the door seals. I haven't ever bothered to try and fix the issue with mine. I'm just careful when closing the door.
     
  5. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    Change out the locks on the doors (where strikers go), replace door seals, and maybe those springs I mentioned in the lower front hinges? Maybe I should call a dealer body-shop and ask them? Scott
     
  6. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    NO, don't call the dealer, do the job yourself man! It isn't hard.

    I would start by adding some padding to the door, right where it meets the door seal. You don't need to change the locks out. I think it's the spring in the lock that is weak. I would maybe try swapping out the old spring for a new one. But, like I said I haven't really tackled this problem yet so I really can say for sure.
     
  7. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    Oh, I wouldn't let THEM do it, but I would like to know what THEY do to fix the issue. I'm pretty sure a car doesn't leave the dealer for big bucks with doors slamming like mine do. Scott
     
  8. Miltonian

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    Where my ts is parked in the garage, with the nose pointed slightly uphill, I can open either door about 18", to just before it catches on the first detent, then let go of the door, and it fully closes by itself with just a pleasant "clunk". No effort at all, no slamming, no rattles.
     
  9. ernie

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    Oh that's EASY! They sell you all brand new door locks, and door trim seals, then charge you up the wazoo to put it all in.
     
  10. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    I'm jealous, where exactly did you say you parked your car again???!!! There has to be a cure besides dropping another grand or two..............Scott
     
  11. Miltonian

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    If your doors don't close well, there are a number of possibilities - in no particular order:

    1) The door is hung crooked.
    2) The striker pin is loose or misadjusted.
    3) The latch is damaged or sticking.
    4) The seals are damaged or loose.

    On item #1, I have seen cases where people (particularly large people) tend to lean on the door when they climb in and out, and the door then hangs low in the back, and the latch doesn't line up with the striker.

    First thing to check - just squat down so your eye level is even with the back of the door, then slowly push the door shut. When the door encounters the striker pin, it should move straight onto the pin. The door should not lift up or drop down. The crease lines on the door and the fender should be level, or very close to level, and faces of the door and the fender should be even, or very close to even.

    Second thing, look at the striker pin on the rear shut face. Does it look like it has a groove worn into it? It shouldn't. Is it screwed on tight? Can you see any marks on the paint to indicate that the striker has moved from its original position?

    What do you see?
     
  12. cscott67

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    I will check these things tonight when I get home. As I remember the door is level/aligned correctly. The striker does not have unusual wear that I can see. (it also does not seem to have been moved) Scott
     
  13. Miltonian

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    Just bear in mind, if you're having to slam the door, the question isn't if the door ENDS UP aligned properly, the question is if the door is actually HANGING properly, so that the latch lines up with the pin when you close the door. The pin will pull the door into position, but that isn't how it's supposed to work if it's straight in the first place. Make sense?
     
  14. cscott67

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    I don't think you understand what I mean by "slamming". It does not take any effort to shut the doors. I can close them from wide upen with a gentle push and they will "slam" shut. It is almost like there is no resistance when the door gets to the car. If you would sir, could you check the little pins at the bottom of your door hinge (lower on car side) and tell me how easy they are to push-in? (mine offer almost no resistance) Daniel at Ricambi sent me some extra pins, but I feel it is the springs BEHIND the pins that are weak or broken. In other words they are not slowing the door down enough when it comes on the latch. Thanks again for your advice, Scott
     
  15. cscott67

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    Strikers line up good, doors are level and swing right in. I dunno, maybe the seals are just worn out. I will have to get some stick-on padding to se if a compression fit will help. Scott
     
  16. elgin328

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    My doors are easy to shut also.
    I don't think there is any thing wrong with the doors.
    I don't want it to take both hands & a shove to close the doors.
    but thats me.
     
  17. MDshore348

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    i tihnk what he is trying to explain is the door has no back spring pressure.. i have to tell everyone to "drift" my door shut, dont slam! its just the nature of the design...
     
  18. cscott67

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    Another thing I noticed is that when you push the button to open the door, the door does not "pop-back" out at you. Sometimes I have to push the button with one hand and pull it out with the other hand. It probably needs a new spring in the door lock mechanism or a whole new mechanism. Scott
     
  19. bcwawright

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    Since the car is one state, one door is in another, and one is AWOL...I have absolutely NO problems with my doors(or should that be door?) shutting......
     
  20. MDshore348

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    perhaps it just needs adjusting so the lock arm drops it open...none have a spring they are just big ol' swinging masses of plastic and metal.get used to it ...! but you shouldnt have to pull the door open other than using your fingers under the lip of the door handle
     
  21. cscott67

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    Seems to me when you push the door button from the outside, the door should pop open. It should not take two hands to open the door! I will keep asking around. Thanks for the replies, Scott
     
  22. Miltonian

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    #22 Miltonian, Jun 20, 2007
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    Sorry that my earlier confusion over the word "slamming" was unhelpful.

    What happens when you manually work the latch like this with your finger? Can you feel spring resistance? And when you then operate the outside door button, does the latch "spring" open like it should?
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  23. Houston348

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    i know what you mean about it sounding like it is slamming.
    when i close my doors on my 348 i almost have to "place' the door closed instead of shutting it.. they close really easily
     
  24. cscott67

    cscott67 Formula Junior

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    I will play with the latch tonight to check what you have suggested. Last nite I rebuilt the flywheel assembly. (re-packing that sh-t was a PIA) They would have done us a big favor by putting the springs in the clutch disc!! ;o) scott
     
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    Scott - OffTopic: 8.25mm was the number you were looking for last night....
     

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