how about nsx kicking lambos ass til car overheated...
LOL... Dave, I love the NSXR. That is a track in Japan with the best Japanese driver in Japan driving the NSXR. I do admit though, that car kicks ass on the track. -Mike
The cylinder heads and engine block were made at the Cosworth Technology factory (owned by Audi) and then shipped to Hungry to be finished, just like many other Audi engines. The engine is based on Audi's 4.2L V8. It shares the same bore center and 90 degree V-angle. It has 4 valves per cylinder instead of 5 like other Audi engines. The body was made in at the Neckarsulm. This is where the Audi Alminum Plant is located and the body fabbed. The Gallardo body is aluminum. The engine block and cylinder heads are as well. Guess where the Audi A8 body is made? Guess what is it made of? You are right though. The stereo, AC and optional Navigation are straight from Audi. In fact they are from the A8 as well. Interesting though is that Vittorio Di Capua started talking to Audi AG in late 1997 about using the 4.2 V8 and the Audi Quattro system for a "baby lambo" since developing a V10 on their own was not financially possible. There was no more money as there was a huge financial collapse in Indonesia where the financial backing for Lambo existed. The entire Board of Director was replaced by managers from Audi AG on November 4, 1998 and during 1999 Automobili Lamborghini SpA was transformed into a holding, managed by Franz-Jozef Pfaefgen, helped by Di Capua and Rocchio. The new Board of Directors for the Lamborghini Holding was made up of Werner Mischke, George Flandorfer, Helmut Aurenz, Ditman Schimanski and Haydan Leshel as Sales Manager. These people actually run three different branches of the Lamborghini holding, the Car Factory, the Marine engine division and Lamborghini Artimarca. Your entire post is making it sound as if Audi is using technology from Lambo. While very small bits might be true it is quite the contrary. Lambo gets its research, design, technology and facilities (if not ALL of it) from Audi, it is NOT the other way around. Lambo had no money period. This is why it was purchased 100% by Audi, and for that money Audi purchased a brand. P.S. For the record on several occasions I came close to pulling the trigger on a Muci and more than once on a roadster (Both from Cats Exotics). I love the looks of both. Maintenace and the community of Lambo owners has pushed me away everytime. One day though...
The Ferrari 360 started FIRST and finished LAST. What happened to the racing heritage and Formula 1 tecnology?
Wow. Great post. I guess I was wrong. When I am, I will be the first to admit it. BTW. Many cars share platforms with other carmakers from what I have heard. IE F430 and Maserati.
My M Roadie shares a similar platform at the E36 (3 series) and steals the S54 engine from the E46 M3. Even better is that the engine and driveline are made and come from Germany, but the body and the assembly is done in North Carolina, which is where all the Roadies come from. Pretty funny for the marque "M" class.
I think you missed one thing on your list... In a bid to boost Gallardo sales – and reduce development costs by borrowing from sister company Audi – Lamborghini engineers have dropped the R8's 420bhp eight-cylinder into the Gallardo's midship engine bay to create a new entry level Lamborghini that will sit below the current V10 model but above the Audi R8.So this is a cut-price Gallardo? (It may look like a boggo Gallardo being hammered around the Nürburgring, but have a close look at the exhaust layout...) That's the thinking behind pilfering Audi's powerplant, but it's all relative, remember. The current V10 Gallardo costs £127,000, so expect this new derivative to cost around £105,000 – a decent saving but still enough of a premium over the £76,825 Audi R8 to justify its Raging Bull badge. Expect it to arrive at the Geneva motor show early next year, with a Spyder to follow for the start of 2009, neatly fulfilling Lamborghini's promise of a 'new' model each year.Here's the article: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...sid=814&page=1 __________________ Image Unavailable, Please Login
Lambo owners are even to immature to compare the right cars. They have to compare a car from 1999 to their own 2004. Lets see: Gallardo (entry level) to F430 entry level) Murci (uper level) to 599 (upper level) none of those will be won by the Lambos.... And PikeMike: once you put the Z06 on a roadcourse I can beat her through corners with my Spec Miatas (actually have done that in Homestead) The funniest thing though is that all these Lambo guys have to hang out in FERRARIchat. I can honestly say I have never made it to Lambochat.
Of course Lambo owners could care less. If a Lambos don't have "sport" you simply erase that from the word "sportscar" and that leaves you with a Lambo being only a "car"
What data do you have to support this? Also, Peter and I did not post that vid. There was no Gallardo or Murcielago in 1999, so he was making an observation of the video. Yes and the spec Miatas will beat a stocK f430 and gallardo through the roadcourse too. So what is the point of your argument? On a real track, the Z will own both of them, so is it a better car? I am not a Lambo only guy, I like both marques.
Yes Martin. It is a "Sports" car and not a "race" car. A "Sports" car is made for the street, and a "race" car is made for "racing." Lamborghini makes Exotic "sportscars." Ferrari makes "sportscars" as well unless they have a rollcage, fire suppressant system, etc, which some have.
Any info on the weight? Would that make it the super - super - legarra? What is the horsepower difference between the 8 and the 10? Scottie (I like Lambos and their owner's too)
Scottie, It is a lighter version with less hp that will be at a lower price. it will be 420hp instead of 520hp from what I remember
A British TV show has made the track comparision and they love the L-cars Point is that is comparing a 8 year old car with 400HP to a 2004 with 500HP, instead of comparing it to the 2005 480HP car. actually there I have my doubts. The 430 corners very well with high Gs even on road tires. So does the Gallardo BTW. ???what is a "real" track? The 1/4 Mile? That is all a Z06 has.
Since you like the track comparison. Best track in the world. the Ring: F360: 8.09 F360CS:7.56 F430: 7.55 Gallardo 2004 E-Gear: 7.52 Gallardo SL:7.46 I am not a huge fan of the Z06, but it landed a 7:40 which makes it faster in a straight line and on the best of tracks.
I would not rate the Ring as the best track in the world. ...and I am German! The Ring is basically a lot of straights connected by a few corners. Look at the layout. Of course the Vette makes good time. Its a great engine. Just corners like crap. (especially if you turn off the traction control)
