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  1. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The British GP isn't here yet and already Fernando Alonso is complaining that he will have to hand the victory to team-mate Lewis Hamilton.


    Hamilton's rise to the top of Formula One has been credited with increased sales for Sunday's British GP and nothing would please the British public more than having a British winner at the Silverstone race.


    However, according to Alonso, it may be McLaren's dream result as well as the team is a British outfit.


    "I think that, yes, they will prefer that (Hamilton winning) and I don't think there will be any argument," he told The Sun.


    "We will be in England and we have a Spanish driver and an English driver and the Englishman is leading the Championship.


    "So if he wins, it will help the team more."


    The Spaniard, though, is hoping that after the British GP is over, the team-mate battle at McLaren will return to a level playing field and that McLaren will be rooting for him to win races.


    "The team wanted me to win in Barcelona and they will want Hamilton to win at Silverstone," he concluded. "I hope things will get back to being how they were in Barcelona."
     
  2. racerx3317

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    So what did he say that was wrong Brian? He said the team wanted him to win in Spain and now they would want Lewis to win in England. What's wrong with that, everyone knows it's true, he just has the balls to say it.
     
  3. aedmon640

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    Way to set the bar high
     
  4. PhilNotHill

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    Thinking with his balls. Not smart whether true or not. Who does FA get points with making such stupid statements? Certainly not anyone on McL, especially Lewis.

    So far, Lewis has had too much class to make such insipid remarks.
     
  5. racerx3317

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    Lewis will say whatever McLaren and Ron Dennis wants him to say.

    FA's comments are nothing nobody didn't already know. if he feels like saying it, then it his business.
     
  6. PhilNotHill

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    FA will pay a price to voice his opinion. He has to decide for himself whether it's worth the price.

    His team pays a price for his remarks too. That's the part that is not fair. That's also not being a team player IMVHO.
     
  7. racerx3317

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    What price is his team paying? There is nothing wrong with a driver speaking his mind.
     
  8. PSk

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    Exactly, probably been in brain washing simulations for this part too ...

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  9. tonyc

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    Remy you are starting trouble again! :D

    This is the problem with Alonso. I want to like him, he is the world champ, but he still has not learned to let his driving do the talking. Some here say he has the balls to say what is on everyones mind, I think he does not have the sense to just shut his mouth and go in the closet and play with his huge balls. I know he is also still very young, but this is not going to earn him more fan support, let alone team support. Maybe he is playing mind games with the team and trying to force the british team to favor him?
     
  10. maxorido

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    +1
     
  11. PhilNotHill

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    +1

    Exactly right on, bro.
     
  12. racerx3317

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    Many people want drivers to say what's on thier minds, if you or Phil don't then it's your call. A lot gets written about what Alonso says but it seems not too many people bother to read it. Formula One would be boring were it not for people that say what they think. What would it be like if everyone were as dry as Kimi? I ask again, what was wrong with what he said? A few guys here get upset at anything he says.
     
  13. PhilNotHill

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    FA's comments are divisive. They are not team building.

    One should not air their dirty laundry in public. It is self serving. It will not build repore with the team, especially Lewis.

    He would not work for me with that attitude. It is a team sport. Alonso doesn't get it.

    Lewis is a gentleman with class. I wish him well. Hope he beats FA every race and is right behind SF. :D
     
  14. maxorido

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    If that's the case then: Senna, Prost, Mansell, Montoya, Villeneuve and who knows how many other drivers, wouldn't work for you either.
     
  15. Remy Zero

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    i never said what he mentioned was wrong Luis. i got this from Planet-f1.com
     
  16. Remy Zero

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    my point precisely Tony :D :D
     
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    Then why even point it out, I read the story earlier in the day and thought hmm, oh well it's not like it's not true, he sounds like he just wants to get on with racing on equal terms. The headline makes it sound like it's more of that they are favoring Lewis crap, untill you read the whole story.
     
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    The problem is that it comes across as whining. If for example, he would have said "It would be great for Britain and British fans if Hamilton wins, but I am sure the team will be fair and I will do my best to win." He still puts the team on notice, but it comes across much better
    See the difference?

    I am not an Alonso hater and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that his words are getting twisted by the media and in translation.
     
  19. maxorido

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    Yes and we must also remember that english is his second language. He woln't come across quite as eloquent as someone who speaks english as their primary language.
     
  20. Remy Zero

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    what do u mean?
     
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    +1 Just what i was thinking, thank you. He only learned English recently he didn't speak much at all in the Minardi days.
     
  22. D.Mauro

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    One thing you might consider is that a phase, saying or sentence is the english language is very hard to translate in a different language such as (Spanish, Italian, Etc.) just ask someone who speaks a different language, because theay can not translate exactly the way it was said.
     
  23. maxorido

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    Yeah that too. +1
     
  24. bigodino

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    So is FA stating the obvious (it would be nice to win your own country's race) or is he implying that there are team orders that prevent him from winning the British GP (and Hamilton from winning the Spanish GP)?

    If it's the first he shouldn't have said anything because his words will be twisted. If it's the latter it's indeed damaging the image of McLaren (not that I care too much about that). Wasn't it Ron Dennis who always says that he lets his drivers race on an equal basis? Doesn't seem like it (and I never bought it).

    FA's in a difficult position. And I'm sure he's put in that position by McLaren first and the media second. What does he have to do? Always answer "no comment"?
     
  25. aedmon640

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    even if he went all out, he wouldn't beat lewis.

    He certainly wouldn't "let" a teammate win when both of them are in a title hunt.
     

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