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05 430 price?

Discussion in '360/430' started by Aleso, Jul 4, 2007.

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  1. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Hey people I have a question about prices for an 05 430 F1 Coupe. The car is in excellent condition, with around 10k miles on it. Grigio Alloy on Ivory&blue. How much would you buy this for (or how much would make it a good deal?)

    Thanks
     
  2. Gary(SF)

    Gary(SF) F1 Rookie

    Oct 13, 2003
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    This is always a guess, but I would say around 215-220.

    Gary
     
  3. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

    Nov 11, 2003
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    Depends on options and if it is private party or dealer.
     
  4. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Thanks

    How much is the difference between private party and dealer prices for a car like this?
     
  5. RBK

    RBK F1 Rookie

    Jul 27, 2006
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    Begin with MSRP.... Understand you can buy new for $50-60,000 over MSRP.
    I suspect $30,000 over would be fair. Best
     
  6. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Also I believe its got the following options. Bluetooth, red callipers, Daytona seats, colored dash, electric seats, upholstered top, leather rear/door mould, HIFI, colored stitching, Challenge wheels.
     
  7. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    MSRP is around 200k correct?
     
  8. SANguru

    SANguru Formula 3

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    30K over is way too much...
     
  9. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    So if someone can land this car for $215k or less, would that be considered a good deal?
     
  10. KennyH

    KennyH F1 Veteran
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    Depends on the MSRP. What options does it have?
     
  11. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    MSRP is 200k right?

    Its options are (as far as I know): Bluetooth, red callipers, Daytona seats, colored dash, electric seats, upholstered top, leather rear/door mould, HIFI, colored stitching, Challenge wheels.
     
  12. titanium360

    titanium360 F1 Rookie
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    Nov 10, 2003
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    not a good deal, high mileage and an off color. for $220K you can buy a titanium/navy 05 F1 with about 2800miles
     
  13. toggie

    toggie F1 World Champ
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    #13 toggie, Jul 5, 2007
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    Are you looking for MSRP that the car was originally in 2005 for those options or to compare it to a new 2007 MSRP for a similar car?
    I think the MSRP for 2007 would be a little above $210k for those options. $200k is probably close for the 2005 MSRP.

    Grigio Alloy is a great color, but like the other post implied, is not everyone's cup of tea. In bright sunlight, it is stunning. There is a 456 in our area that is grigio alloy that really stands out at any Ferrari event.
    Here are some pics of cars in that color:
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  14. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    The color stands out among other 430s thats what I like about it. My question is how much is this car worth, or how much would you pay for something like this.
     
  15. mw575

    mw575 F1 Rookie

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    MSRP in '05 plus 25K would be reasonable.
    MSRP plus 20 K would be an excellent deal.
     
  16. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    So you mean $220k would be a good deal, and anything less than $220k would be an excellent deal?
     
  17. HWJunkie

    HWJunkie Formula Junior

    Mar 30, 2007
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    That car sounds exactly like the one that was on ebay a few months ago at about $195k and didn't sell, then was probably sold to another dealer looking to make a few bucks, then was listed again, by the new owner, on ebay and Auto Trader for around $210, it didn't sell again (I think) then went up on ebay with no reserve and sold for around $197, but I could be wrong about that last price... It was listed at one time by someone in Arizona but the car was in Las Vegas... or visa-versa....

    Is the car currently listed by a dealer?
     
  18. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

    Nov 1, 2003
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    I'm surprised no one has placed a little more emphasis on the color combo. Grigio Alloy is a tough sell in my opinion. Many people refer to it as "baby blue." With a blue/ivory (ivory being off white in color) I would imagine that this car would NOT bring a premium. Options are important but when you're discussing "x" over MSRP in most cases I would say this car should be MSRP or possible MSRP less some percentage due to the color combination. Just my .02.
     
  19. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    Original MSRP was 195-200K. The options you list were about 15,600. on top of the 180-181K base price for an F1 coupe (including freight and gas guzzler tax) This would be considered a high mileage car of course and difficult to sell for that reason. The problem is that almost anyone who can come up with say 210. for this can come up with 225. for a low or normal mileage car. If you don't mind the miles, that's good but drive a hard bargain, there's plenty more cars you can go for.

    Dave
     
  20. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Thanks for the history on this car. Yes its listed now by a dealer.

    Yea its an interesting color.

    So $220k is too high and $210k is not that good of a deal. So $205k - $200k would be ok, and under $200k would be great?
     
  21. rodsky

    rodsky Formula 3

    Mar 24, 2003
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    I agree. Plus its realttively high miles for the US market. Not that thats a bad thing. My guess - is $195 to $200K.
     
  22. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    I would say you need to decide what YOU want to pay. The dealer no doubt knows it has 2 strikes (color and miles). Decide what you are willing to pay and offer 5K less. Be prepared to walk if they won't meet it. Several times when negotiating I have gotten up and headed to the door only to be called back. The potential upside of this car is that the original owner obviously ordered it to drive and enjoy and equipped it with what he liked, not what he thought someone else would like. It was probably carefully driven and maintained. The cars that are offered with 500 miles on them scare me the most. What are the odds the owner drove it carefully knowing he would be selling after a couple of tanks of gas? Plus, if you buy a car with 10K on it, you can be pretty sure it was not a lemmon. My own 430 which I bought new has 8K on it and I have not had any problems whatsoever, but some owners have not been so lucky.

    Good luck,
    Dave
     
  23. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

    May 1, 2002
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    if you love it, and you intend to keep it and drive it then 200,000 would be a fair price...but if you intend to keep it for a year or two and then turn it, then 190,000 is more like it.

    Make an offer and be prepared to walk away. This car will not appreciate, as it is made in large numbers and a new model is probably on the way soon.
     
  24. Aleso

    Aleso Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Only here would I have gotten this valuable insight. Thanks alot people for your time and help, I really appreciate it.
     
  25. Duane

    Duane Karting

    Nov 22, 2003
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    I would not pay anymore than 200k for this car. Like Dave said the color is going to be tough on resale and miles are high. If you can afford 200k I would look a little harder and pay 220k to find a car with much lower miles.
     

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