now its 100% certain that ron dennis is an arsewipe

An emotional Ron Dennis has defended the corporate integrity of the McLaren team in respect to the Nigel Stepney/Mike Coughlan case, and insisted that the team would never be involved in any wrongdoing.

Speaking to the media as he opened the team’s new multi-million dollar paddock base, Ron showed just how much the subject had affected him when he fought off tears as he concluded his speech.

“I live and breathe this team,” he said before pausing. “And there is no way that anything incorrect would happen in our team.”

Earlier he had acknowledged that the controversy had taken up a lot of his time and energy since it erupted earlier in the week.

“My personal integrity is very important to me, and my company’s integrity is even more important to me. The press releases we have put out have said everything. We are in a process; we are working closely with the FIA, closely with Ferrari. This matter does not involve our company, although of course that’s not the way understandably that everybody sees it at the moment.

“I think some of you have been very supportive of McLaren, I think some of you have been a little hard on McLaren, but I understand depending which country you’re in, depending on how the information you have is available to you, you are going to form opinions. But I’m absolutely confident that with the passing of time you will understand that McLaren’s position is one that is reflective of our statement.

1st horsecrap “And there is no way that anything incorrect would happen in our team.”
his number one driver senna crashes his main adversary for the championship prost at over 100 mph risks serious bodily harm and even death and admits to doing so on purpose one yr later........oh no no dear mr dennis thats not incorrect by any means

2nd load of balony ...mr dennis does a deal with williams to block schumacher for the championship.....as a reward williams drivers let both mclarens pass them and win the grand prix.after schumacher crashes out .......oh yes yes poor mr dennis how dare anymore consider you and your team inccorrect

3rd goes on and on for 20 yrs that he lets his drivers really race each other as they wish and puts down ferrari for making there drivers race for the team...yet lewis hamilton slips out in monaco that he was ordered not to race his team mate

ron your such a arsewipe only thing i admire is how u manage to get the press and therefore f1 fans to not crucify u!!!!!!

 

First, are you sure this genius is actually smart enough to wipe until he sees clean paper? He has thus far "managed" his press about as well as the Nixon white house crew.

Second, (on a contrarian notion about "letting your drivers race") - if you were a team manager, and had an assured finish of first and second, how would you feel if your second place guy wiped out both your cars in a vainglorious attempt to pass your number one on the last corner? More importantly, how would your sponsorship feel about it?

Third, (just an aside comment) - the only guy who is going to come out of this unscathed is of course Lewis. Nobody, but nobody, is going to dare blame him for any of this debacle. And yet the press is moaning and flaggelating themselves over "what might happen to his points"...???

 

Guys,
nobody here is innocent. Today it was Ferrari some other year before it was McLaren or Williams.
Please, this happens every day. Ferrari has spies just as all the other teams have spies in their competitors.

For all the other stuff, Enzo himself was the master of doing something illegal and then stand there and cry that it is someone elses fault or that he was framed and that the Media is after him.

Relax guys, its F1. They all do it, they all know it and they all will continue to do it. Cheating is the biggest part of racing! He who cheats best, wins!

 

exactomundo my friend!!!!..........they all cheat in one way or another. commonly known as "bending the rules" or "our interpretation of the rules", but they rarely call it cheating......it's good and healthy for the sport, keeps everyone on their toes.........

 

And a balb faced liar.

His statement that only one MCL employee saw the documents is bogus. It is now reported that an MCL employee who was making copies turned them in after noticing the SF logo on the documents. How many copies? Who has them?

What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

 

True, but in retrospect, was it not the great Roger Penske who practically made a career out of "the unfair advantage"? I seem to recall an acid-dipped TransAm Camaro, amoung other infractions. And everybody thought he was an all-american legend. Maybe MCL just needs a little more chutzpah here?

I will have to say, that for the moment at least, SF "up", MCL "down". Who could have predicted that two weeks ago?

It is hilarious to see these perps get themselves in more trouble for their coverup attempts than for the deed itself.

 

-you hit the nail right on the head martin and lex that is the truth that they all bend the rules
-but ron dennis is the only one who is low enough and foolish enough to go on and on about how his team is just so prim and proper has more integrity,puts the sport first bla bla bla
-guess he thinks everybody falls for his ronspeak
-btw phil it was an independant copy shop that was copying the ferrari documents for mclarens top engineer coughlan that tiped off ferrari
- even though his chief engineer was caught red handed making copies ron still has the balls to insist coughlan is the only one to have seen the documents and that mclaren has in no way gained anything from this theft
-ya sure ron coughlin was copying them to put at the bottom of his birdcage

 

Have you thought *why* he was using an independent copy shop? - Mac don't have a state of the art copier in the facility? Or maybe, just maybe, he didn't want Mac to know what he was up to?

The more I learn on this the more I believe it was a Coughlan/Stepney "plot" to find themsleves (and their egos!) some high paying gigs.

I *never* thought I'd come to RD's defense, but for the good of the sport hope that RD's "tearful" press conference was the truth.....

Cheers,
Ian

 

Do you have some information that I'm not aware about that hasn't been printed yet? Because at the moment from what I've read his statement is true.

I think you need to read the thread about Honda admitting that Stepney and Coughlan had approached them for employment.

Do you really think McLaren's performance increase over Ferrari was due to this information? If that was the case then why were all the aero bits (like McLaren's new front wing) nothing like Ferrari's? As has been stated in other threads the chassis are no where near alike and it's very doubtful any mechanical information from Ferrari would have pertained directly to the McLaren.

 

Agreed. BUT, a combination of Ferrari and Mac data, plus the knowledge these guys have would make them very valuable to another teams '08 designs.

At least until they got caught......

Cheers,
Ian

 

james of course i would dictate team orders just like every race team in f1 always has and probably always will rules or no rules {and just like ron just did in monaco}....for all the main reasons you mentioned and many more

-but i would never deny doing as such and point fingers like he has for the last 10 or so schumacher yrs

- again iam very impressed with how jean and montezemalo have handled this with real INTEGRITY

-but once again iam very confused as to why the press lets ron get away with lying so much!

- only flavio badmouths ron when he sees fit

- i know he has a great history ,,,,but just like senna ....ron and senna got away with everything

 

It wasn't a McLaren employee, it was an employee of a copy center (kinkos?lol) accourding to the speed announce team during the practice braodcast if i heard right.

 

You heard right. However, I *suspect* the Kinkos reference was more of their "humour" at the fact that anyone could be so stupid with such info rather than it being an actual Kinkos.

I've asked before, why would "they" copy it in public rather than use Macs no doubt awesome copy center if Mac were involved?

However, if anyone reading this happens to live around the Woking area it'd be interesting to see if any of the copy centers are currently inundated with reporters....... Someone's got to be going after this story IMHO.

Cheers,
Ian

 

+1

Nothing Dennis said in this statement is untrue. Folks here just need something to complain about, if not Alonso then Dennis.

Ridiculous.

 

do you think dennis is a class act senna21???

 

I think Ron Dennis is probably the best Manager in all of F1, Class Act has nothing to do with it. The guy has consistently put out Winners since the early 80's and from someone who came from Humble Beginnings the guy has proved what he can do. I don't think the guy had anything to do with this whole sordid affair, and he will get through it fine.

 

frank, please leave the word "class" out when mentioned in the same sentence as RD

I like your line of thinking, even if it turns out to be wrong , RD is a frump

 

sorry i meant the above question for senna3xwc

 

I thought you thought he was Lucifer..

 

I second that.

Carol

 

sorry man, of course you are right ... I was dazzled by the Prada shoes

RD is Lucifer

 

rd “And there is no way that anything incorrect would happen in our team.”

a member of his team ( head engineer no less) was caught with ferrari intellectual property in his home no less and that is not incorrect?

rd's top driver senna crashes into prost (chief rival for the championship)in suzuka and later admits to doing it on purpose .rd says not a thing and does not hesitate to rehire senna. is that is not incorrect?

rd agrees to help fellow british team williams by blocking ferrari for the championship .as a reward williams lets mclaren cruise by for a 1,2 finish
is this correct?.....surely this must be the integrity he goes on and on and on about

ill tell u whats ridiculous
1 rd very phony personality
2 alonzo when he shakes his fist in the air and weaves into the mclaren stand when hamilton doesnt let him by

at least haug has some real integrity and class by congradulating kimi for his latest win

 

Norbert Haug is not McLaren - he is Mercedes.

 

In his home, right?

Correct me if I am wrong but Ron Dennis doesn't control what Mike Coughlan does in his home, yes?

On these boards, Dennis got lambasted for ordering his drivers not to drink. He was soundly criticized for trying to control what his employees do in their own time. Here we have a rogue employee engaged in activities in his own home, not in the McLaren office, and yet Dennis is still somehow responsible?!?

Judging from the title of this thread, people already have their minds made up, no matter what the facts may be...

 

OK. You are wrong.