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  1. joe sackey

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    #102 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
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    Ive seen so many USA-spec F40s that have had their seats swapped for various iterations of Euro items and have always wondered why. The standard USA F40 seat has got to be one of the best seats ever installed in a sportscar, and it is both comfortable and yet holds you in place well during cornering. I wonder why so many make the change?

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  3. amenasce

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    #103 amenasce, Jul 13, 2007
    I personnaly think the US Seats look ugly but agree they are comfortable and supportive.
     
  4. 512Tea Are

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    #104 512Tea Are, Jul 13, 2007
    Dear Comrade Joe,

    Could this be because the Euro F-40 is perceived by many as 'the original' and that the US specificastion F-40's are perceived by some as 'none original' with modifications having been made to suit the requirements of the US market or/and legislation. For example, the front and rear 'bumpers' were, I understand, designed to overcome US bumper height legislation.

    As many will be aware, the Euro cars have racing car (FIA Rated) fuel cells which are of course infinitely safer in the event of becoming ruptured. I am wondering whether many US owners have proceeded to further modify their cars making them closer to the original Euro specification by replacing the US specification tanks with Euro fuel cells.

    I do hope that no offence will be caused by this comment as it is merely a viewpoint on the original question as to why some owners have changed aspects of their cars seemingly bringing them closer to the Euro specification.

    With kind regards,

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  5. RufMD

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    #105 RufMD, Jul 13, 2007

    No, he kept those off site ! (At the microcar museum !)

    For those that are wondering what Harry and I are talking about, I was fortunate to purchase 92336 from Bruce Weiner, who at the time had an enzo/McLaren F1/F50/Murcielago/Maserati in those garages, and the worlds finest collection of microcars at a museum. Wonderful guy, who kept his stuff in immaculate shape.
     
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    #106 amenasce, Jul 13, 2007
    I was going to ask what was sleeping behind those garage doors.

    How can one let go of an F40 ?!
     
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    #107 SSNISTR, Jul 13, 2007
    You should have "sold" your wife lol!

    Getting over those sills is great, but I guess it is more of a guy thing.
     
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    #108 SSNISTR, Jul 13, 2007
    Agreed, they may be good seats, but the Euro seats look much better.
     
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    #109 carsinxs, Jul 13, 2007
    With flesh and carbon fiber under thier nails
     
  10. Chaos

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    #110 Chaos, Jul 13, 2007
    good point
     
  11. joe sackey

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    #111 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    Good points, but lets remember that the USA cars were purpose-built that way and were not "modified" post-production. They were manufactured exactly the way you see them today.

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    #112 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007

    Interesting. Ive always felt the opposite. I suppose I love 'em the the way they are.

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    #113 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    Interesting. Clearly beauty is is the eye of the beholder. I suppose Im ga-ga for the USA F40 in standard un-modified spec. Did your dad change his seats then?

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    #114 Chaos, Jul 13, 2007
    this is true, but as with so many US models (from various companies) they werent changes the factories wanted to implement - eg they were forced upon them
     
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    #115 carsinxs, Jul 13, 2007
    Anything done to a car, especially one suchas the F40 being essentially a street legal race car, to make it streetable in ANY local is a comprimize the factory would rather have avoided.
     
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    #116 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007

    Personally have found that it is quite remarkable how enthusiastic my wife becomes about my cars, especially when the nearest birthday is celebrated with a gem worth a few carats. I am still studying this strange and rather astonishing phenomenon..... I, as do others, refer to it as WAF (Wife Approval Factor).

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    #117 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    I see it a bit differently. I am told by my Ferrari SpA representative that with the F40 the factory wanted to pay homage to it biggest market and manufacture a specific version specifically for that market. I see it for what it is, not a copmpromise at all but in fact in some regards an improvement in safety and in other regards just different.

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    #118 amenasce, Jul 13, 2007
    No. I figured i would stop complaining about his cars and give him a break on the seats :D
     
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    #119 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    It usually has to to do with a little thing called economics, but sometimes its simply because the owner has had their fun.

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    #120 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    Good idea! Im glad he didnt change the seats...

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    #121 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    I doubt Ferrari SpA views your F40 as a 'compromized' car.
    I actually think that the USA-mandated legislation brought to bear upon Ferrari SpA and other manufacturers has resulted in safer and better cars, for the street at least. I love USA spec cars for that reason.

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    #122 Chaos, Jul 13, 2007


    you mention about economics a few posts ago.
    see economics is why i think your theory is a bit far fetched.
    basically if your figures are correct then Ferrari sacrificed $12 million of their profit for the US spec car - a car theyd already developed for the rest of the world.
     
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    #123 carsinxs, Jul 13, 2007
    GOD Bless Them
     
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    #125 joe sackey, Jul 13, 2007
    I can see that we view this subject completely differently which is what a healthy forum allows us to do. Lets agree to differ.

    I actually think that the fact that Ferrari were prepared to "sacrifice" $12 million as you put it (Id go with "invested" as a choice of words) helps prove my point that the USA series was an intentional series.

    Bottom line for me is, I think the USA series of cars are a bit special and thats why I own a handful of USA-spec cars. I dont need any other reason to have them. Thats my viewpoint and lets leave it at that :)

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