Different bumpers, and larger door beams as far as I know. And yes, the US cars did weigh a little more then the Euros. But the US cars were said to "secretly" have a few more horsepower to even this out.
obviously straight emissions tuning will result in less power unless you make other modifications too - so was this extra power achieved by running more boost ?
Dear Comrade SSINISTR, May I request, please, that you examine Joe's post again. I think Joe may have made a faux pas. For he has definitely used the word 'better.' I believe that it may well be likely that Joe has made a Freudean Slip. As deep down in his psyche he will be aware that the late cars were better because the artisans had so many years of practicing on the older models which essentially were prototypes for the illustrious finale 1992 model. This is why there is the ongoing proliferation of 'evidence' that the US F-40 is better than the original 'as Enzo saw it' Euro cars. For myself, I do not believe that Enzo wished for the F-40 to have a moustache. Or the heavyweight doors and god knows what else that the US cars have. How do I get the smiley icons onto the page please? With kind regards, 512 Tea Are
By "developed version" I am referring to the USA version, a version of the F40 that uses the standard Euro version and develops it to meet legislation as mandated by the DOT in the USA. Joe www.joesackey.com
Chaos, According to the illustrious Dean Batchelor, in meeting the fifty-state emissions standards on the F40, the catalyst-equipped engines actually made over 500 bhp (515 bhp) instead of the Euro car's 478 because of all the tuning work done to meet certification using engine management that came from the Formula One engines. He does not state if indeed more boost is run on the USA cars, but this is a tcehnical possibility that my Ferrari representative is confirming for me. Joe www.joesackey.com
ecu technology would have improved noticeably in the 5 yrs or so between the initial development and the US model development - so a gain without increasing boost is certainly feasible. though a 7 % gain is pretty big when you take into account that the exhaust probably had to be strangled somewhat for the US. i look forward to hearing your findings
Graham, I think there is a general misunderstanding about the raison d'etre of the USA F40. No one is stating that Enzo Ferarri wished the F40 to be created in USA spec. BUT, the fact is, Ferrari SpA deemed it important enough to proceed and make the substantial investment and manufacture a series of cars in a different spec from the Euro cars built especially for the USA. They were made, they are iconic, and they exist. The purpose of this thread is to celebrate that limited series of 213 + USA cars (hence this thread's title) and to share information & chassis numbers of them. Lets focus on just that. Joe www.joesackey.com
you sure about that ? I have evidence that in the UK the F40 was a little under £200k GBP in 1992 this works out at approx $370k USD (using the correct exchange rates for the period) more expensive yes, but not even close to $140k more
Even using those numbers and assuming they are correct, without adjusting the price for local taxes that may have been levied by the UK versus the de minimus effect of US import taxes, the difference is sufficient to cover the additional cost per car of the US versions. My car, a 1992, stickered before destination charges and taxes, at $423,000. I have posted this sticker somewhere on FChat, but it 's a beautiful summer day and I'm not inclined to go searching for it.
Exchange rates aside, my point was that Ferrari covered the extra cost of the USA cars. Joe www.joesackey.com
Dear Comrade Joe, I have within my possession the original shipping documents from Ferrari SPA (1992) for my car which also shows the three cars that it was shipped with: 348, Mondial qnd 512 TR. I also have the original invoice from Ferrari SPA to Maranello Concessionaires of Egham, Surrey, England who were the UK concessionaires until fairly recent times. Naturally, the invoice clearly states the price that Maranello Concessionares paid to Ferrari SPA. The car was originally sold to it's first owner for £193,000 (1992) which did not include the Schedonni luggage or other extra items. With kind regards, 512 Tea Are
Property tycoon Jerry Moore didnt take any chances and ordered and took delivery of 2 F40s at the same time. "Youve got to have two, darling..." Why not when you have an 800-car collection? Joe www.joesackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login
Lots of threads being started up on the F40 subject that consist of a single question and are dead-and-gone in 3 posts or so. A few questions Ive noticed: - Has anyone had their F40 in the Classiche program? In my own case FNA representative John Amette asked me if I would run my F40 through the processs indicating that it was one of the nicest examples he had seen in recent years. I said sure, go ahead. It is scheduled shortly. - Do USA F40s have active suspension? No they did not come suppleid that way but Im aware of 3 owners who have retrofitted them via their dealers. Im sure there are a few more. - How much use do most F40 owners subject their cars to? Easy answer. Not much. Most who can afford an F40 are very busy individuals and wish they could drive them more. Maybe in retirement... Joe www.joesackey.com
This UK-based F40 owner drives the car at high-speed and found that he gained more stability by adding the USA front spoiler... the car is seen maintained at Ferrari specialists Foskers at Brands Hatch. Joe www.joesackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Anyone know this car? Joe www.joesackey.com Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
"The purpose of this thread is to celebrate that limited series of 213 + USA cars (hence this thread's title) and to share information & chassis numbers of them. Lets focus on just that." Hmmmm, why do I get this feeling that there is more to it than that....not planning on buying and selling F40's are you Joe ?
I must confess Ive done that twice already so if you twist my arm... but Im still enthusiastic about the cars as is everyone who reads and/or posts. Joe www.joesackey.com
Good for you. Im glad I could share it. At the time in 1988, we could only 'hope' that there would be a USA version. Joe www.joesackey.com