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  1. Chaos

    Chaos Formula 3

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    make a limited edition Hypercar ala 288, F40, F50, Enzo etc
     
  2. Scaledetails

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    Ok, and what do you call the Diablo SE's?
     
  3. v tach

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    I think he's referring to a completely different chassis/body style than the rest of the regular production run.
     
  4. pdisme

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    I don't see them doing that unless they actually get into racing and could share some of the technology from the R&D for the race program; the price of the developing a small production, and completely unique, limited street car couldn't be made up for unless they charged an amount so ridiculous no one would buy it anyway.
     
  5. Chaos

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    are you kidding ?
     
  6. christiann

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    what do you mean chaos? se is not a low prodution hyper car. I think it is for my two cents
     
  7. Chaos

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    then put simply your wrong.

    i. its a variant of an existing production car.
    ii. its not a hypercar.


    gr8 and fantastic car yes, but not a hypercar.
     
  8. Scaledetails

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    There are more F40's, 288GTO's, F50's, and Enzos than the SE's for example, which by the way has better performance than half of that group of F-cars. Don't get me wrong, I am an active FCA member and love all Ferraris, but not to call a limited production Diablo a supercar is wrong.
     
  9. Chaos

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    define quicker.
    a few extra mph top speed is irrelevant, acceleration and handling are far more important. As is power to weight ratio.

    oh and a comparison to determine whats what has to be relative - gallardo is quicker than a 288 gto but its still not a hypercar. (eg its 20 odd yrs later and things move on)


    eh ?
    i never said it wasnt a supercar - it most definetely is.
    but a hypercar it is not


    most definitions of hypercar ive seen is where things are taken to a new level beyond that of the current era production vehicles (comparing to the then current era is important - as time goes on the production cars reach this level - and beyond)

    in the 80's we had 288 gto and f40
    in the 90's we had f50, eb110, mclaren f1
    in 00's we have enzo, zonda, CGT (and a few others trying)
     
  10. Detour_racing

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    Countach??? That was the first hypercar........Will they ever make another "hyercar" that answer is no.
     
  11. Miura Jota

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    just wait till Bugatti Veyron ceases production ...
    and they'll use it's 1000+ hp engine on a limited edition Hyper Lambo
     
  12. 2NA

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    I have no idea what a "hypercar" is but the Miura, Countach and Diablo are pretty "hyper" if you ask me.

    VW has already stated that they don't want to be in the toy business so I don't expect anything radical in the immediate future.
     
  13. RoWis

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    That would be something but I doubt it will happen
     
  14. Scaledetails

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    The F40's competition in the 80's was the Diablo. If the F40 is considered a "hypercar", with over 1100 produced, I don't see why the Diablo should not be considered as such, mass produced or not.
    The way I see it, Lamborghini never really needed to come up with a "Hypercar" since their entire production run was itself in a "Hypercar" league with unique designs and outrageous styles, from the Miura, to the Countach, Diablo, and today's models. Lamborghini is by far the most extravagant sports car you can buy today, and is considered the pioneer in its class. It should never be compared to Ferrari, it is apples and oranges.
     
  15. whammo!

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    Stop arguing guys.

    Simple answer to original question, No.
     
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    I think the Diablo GT as kind of a race inspired Hypercar... True it is the same rough body and all - but it was built as a raw street going rocket and limited numbers...

    The SE and a few other limited editions (Monterey), 40th anniversary, Gallardo Nera, SL, SE are unique and very limited numbers and special for sure... But I liken this to the F-car line up like the 355 Floriano edition, the Stradale, etc. With the exception that lambo is much more rare and much smaller numbers.
     
  18. Malfoy

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    *Cough* Zonda *Cough* :)
     
  19. Chaos

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    dont agree with that at all.
    diablo competition was the tr and 512tr etc not the F40



    tho you are right in that the F40 did virtually become a production car not a limited run - it was originally supposed to be 400 and they eventually made 1315 (iirc)
     
  20. Chaos

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    yeah the Veyron, Koenigsegg, Pagani and Saleen arent extravagent at all :p
     
  21. Scaledetails

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    I was talking about the real world, mass produced cars, not the Sony Playstation cars that most of us will never see in a lifetime. Of course those 4 makes are the ultimate rides, but please, don't compare them to everyday exotics.
     
  22. Webby

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    A new Murci is about the same price as a new F430, right? Chaos is talking about Lamborghini making something more like competition for an Enzo... something that costs 2-3 times as much as an F430/ Murci, gets around 220 mph, and is not just a special edition F430. Same thing with the F50, it was 2-3 times as expensive as the F355 or 360, was a lot quicker, and was not just a special edition. The Enzo and F50 are also much rarer than the F430 or 360 counterparts.

    As nice as the Diablo SE and so on are, they're "just" Diablos, not something completely different. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're not great cars, and I agree with a lot of what you say Scaledetails, I just think you're missing the point of Chaos's question. He's wondering if Lambo will make a car that's as expensive as the Enzo, much rarer than "regular" Lambos, has a completely different design, etc.
     
  23. Scaledetails

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    Now I understand completely. Hopefull Lamborghini will one day come up with such a rare model for us.
     
  24. Chaos

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    but that was my point.
    Ferrari have ventured into this market a few times - F50 and Enzo (and even the 288 gto and f40 in their day too)

    so my question was do we think Lamborghini (now theyre financially secure) will do something similar.


    yes pretty much spot on analysis - at last someone who gets it.
    (altho from what i recall murci is similar price to 599 - and 430 similar to gallardo)
     
  25. Pagani16

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    Playstation cars, I think you need to move to a better neighborhood. I've seen many examples of these cars; it's all a mater of being in the know.
     

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