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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    No. Not my thing. I maintain it and I drive it with my family (on Tuesday I did 29 miles in mine, not much, but it got fully excercised this week). There is something about waiting upon a grassy meadow all day for a gentleman in a blue blazer to tell you if your car is up to snuff that gets a bit old after a while.
    Ive won many awards with my Miura SVs (and current SV), and thats a car that you might be able to twist my arm to show.

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  2. thepinkumbrella

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    Is the Lamborghini concours scene the same as the Ferrari concours arena?
     
  3. joe sackey

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    More laid back I think. The differences in production cars can make judging tricky. My SV was shown last summer at Concorso after its epic Bobileff restoration and it had not been seen in public for 35 years since the 1971 Boston Auto Show. We won Best In Class so I think I should promptly retire it!

    I dont think Ill ever have the F40 judged but Ferrari has approached me to put it through the Classiche program (I have no objection).

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  4. RufMD

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    Paul,

    I have signed up for the F40 event at Laguna Seca, but likely won't be able to make it on such short notice as it involves switching my call schedule and the logistics of shipping across country. I will be at the FCA Concours at Watkins Glen the last week of August and will take the CGT and GT3 down to the Rennsport reunion at Daytona in November. If your into Porsches at all (apologies to all for mentioning the 'enemy' in this thread), this is a must see event full of all the significant historic porsches ever raced.
     
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    #406 RufMD, Jul 26, 2007
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    this pic is of 92336 when it was at the Ault Park Concours in 2006. It won Best in Class that year, and went on to Cavallino in Jan of this year. It won Platinum there and the Major Award "The F40 Cup" for Best F40. Pretty neat experience for a novice concours bloke. Has anyone ever done the Coppa Bella Macchina at the FCA Concours ? I'm going to enter it into that technical inspection and field trial and was just wondering what the driving portion entails.
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  6. joe sackey

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    Excellent and congratulations!

    We hope to see you & the car at the F40 20th Anniversary at Laguna Seca. From what Im hearing it will be memorable...

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  7. 512Tea Are

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    Dear Comrade joe sackey,

    Please do not think that I am prying, but are we to presume from your post that as Ferrari has approached you with regard to the Classiche Certification Survey that they will not be invoicing you for the substantial sum that is usually required? Please do not feel obliged to provide details as this is of course a personal matter, but if you were able to indicate a yes or no it would be interesting to hear.

    With kind regards,

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  8. of2worlds

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    Who is the 'expert' in the USA who would survey an F40 for the program? Do you just send in lots of detailed pictures instead? Maybe they are looking for one car to practice on before the other 200 owners of USA model F40's come knocking? Have any USA model F40 cars been surveyed for the program yet? Thanks
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  9. joe sackey

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    No trouble at all: Yes, even though I was approached by the local head of the Classiche Department (after having viewed my car at the Ferrari dealership where he is stationed) to suggest that I have the car Certified, I still fully expect an invoice at the end of the proceedings for all the goodies that accompany the Certification. I am sure that the price varies from country to country and I would advise that anyone wishing to know what it is should contact the Department directly.

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  10. joe sackey

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    In my region it is:

    John Amette, Classiche Department, Ferrari of Newport Beach.

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    My understanding is that the inspection and the detailed images of all aspects of the car are carried out by the Classiche Department at their premises. I know of another late F40 that he tells me is being completed ahead of mine. Thats all I know of.

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    agreed.
    the other thing is that as so many came without it - we in in the rest of the world are used to seeing the F40 without it. When we then see the "moustached" cars it does jar a bit and as you say Paul looks like an addition - id almost go so far as to say an aftermarket addition.
    all that said, its likely to be the opposite for you lot across the pond as it is the norm for your F40's and the rest of the world cars prob look odd to you and missing something.

    id like to see it colour coded too or at least a mockup to see how it looks - the paint used on various cars rubber spoilers would probably work, its almost like a coating as opposed to regular paint
     
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    Joe, PLEASE tell me you have that one in high res????
     
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    I think that gives the shape more cohesion
     
  16. of2worlds

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    When Ferrari was developing the 288 GTO they painted red another prominent black bit; the front bumper. Obviously somebody with a say in the decision on which way to go didn't like it that way. The bumper is black. However the GTO came with a red front spoiler (and a rear spoiler that is a visual treat). I think the contrast in color is needed or you get that monochrome look that reminds one of 80's AMG excess. I prefer the USA 'cowcatcher' look more than the dainty Euro front end that somehow looks unfinished...
    just my .02 cents
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    Only as you see it.

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    Agreed.
    I feel the same whenever I see a 1985-91 Testarossa with the satin-black lower front spoiler now color-coded. Tacky, tacky, tacky. It does not work.

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    Exactly.

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    agreed.
    with the colour coding it balances it out a bit better, makes it appear more a part of the car as opposed to an afterthought (which in truth it is)

    you've already got the intake (and on the us cars the black "bumper") to contrast the body colour.


    funny you should say that about - heres one i did earlier (a few months ago actually) - sorry to go off topic slightly in this part of the post.
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    OK this is all good stuff, but rather moot, because the decision for the cosmetic application of the USA F40 was made 18 years ago and what really matters is that the people who own these cars love and appreciate them exactly the way they are :)

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    #423 joe sackey, Jul 27, 2007
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    I think the front spoiler and the bumperette strip look very nicely designed in keeping with the overall design of the car as presented for the limited-production USA series F40. As an owner of one of these things, it never strikes me that their application was an afterthought at all, possibly because I know that the USA cars were purpose-built by Ferrari SpA from scratch with a very defined specification including these items. They are not Euro cars that were modified.... At any rate, I find the overall look of the USA cars to be menacing and purposeful.

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    Joe if you say owners appreciate them exactly the way they are; then is it sacrilege to change them? Say, big brakes, wheels, dump the cats and plug in Euro seats which are not stock. What does that do for a certificate when Ferrari doesn't even like an exhaust modification on a new Ferrari? Just curious how far you can go before they fail you for a certificate.
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    The 'winged wonder' does pale some in the presence of real beauty. Curves are more interesting than a straight line.
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