Alonso showing his lack of class - yet again

It was clear beyond a doubt that Alonso was purposely holding Hamilton up. I counted about 10 seconds extra time between the time the lolipop went up to the time Alonso actually left. Pretty dirty tactics. Hope Hamilton beats him in the race.

 

Wow, some of you people are awfully quick to start pointing fingers at Alonso. All that I have heard about this incident so far is what Alonso said at the interviews, where he said it was a TEAM DECISION. Yet some of you are tearing Alonso a new one.

What's the matter.............now that Montoya is in NASCAR, Alonso has now taken the place of the villain?

At least wait for a freaking statement from the team before jumping down the guy's throat.

Unbelievable how some of you are.

 

Did you watch the qualifying? It was blantantly obvious to anyone who saw it on TV. Yes the team held Alonso back. But as Hamilton came in, the lolipop was lifted and then Alonso sat for another 10 seconds before leaving quite slowly.

 

If you saw him the pits and RD s face you would assume the same.

I thought FH was ok but if no reasonable facts come about why he did wait in the pits which i doubt, then
I for one hope LH wipes the floor with him good style...

 

I missed qualifying as the little guy didn't let us get much sleep last night and I have to fly to Portland for work in a few hours, but if the team had waived him out and Fernando knew that Lewis was behind him waiting, then he deserves a 10 second grid penalty. Ron Dennis would only be livid about a McLaren 1-2 if one of his drivers did something really dumb, and I'm afraid Fernando did that. Fernando should have gone to the end of the pitlane, assuming no one else would have come out behind him and forced him to not block the track and if Lewis beat him for pole then he should have accepted it like a man. Very disappointing.

 

before you ask rubens you ever ask YOURSELF what rubens contract said before he signed it??????????????

 

Sorry, the incident is now under investigation by the stewards of the event. Also, couldn't miss Ronco's body language and marching the Alonso pit-board guy down the pit lane to parc ferme..."

This was a chick@nsh*t move on Fred's part...

Lewis is even more well controlled than I thought. That's why he'll be WDC before too long.

 

Like this year, probably...

 

i think lh even shook freddys hand after q3

maybe he was being sarcastic

 

Yeah, we're overreacting...



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"I'm curious as to what's gone on" - Hamilton

Stewards at the Hungarian grand prix on Saturday afternoon were investigating why Lewis Hamilton ran out of time to defend his provisional pole position.

Anticipating the development, it is understood that McLaren boss Ron Dennis personally escorted Fernando Alonso's physiotherapist Fabrizio Borra to FIA officials here in Budapest.

It is believed that Borra, despite the fact that the lollipop was raised and mechanics were ushering the Spaniard's car out of the pit box, gave Alonso a signal when enough time had elapsed so as to cause team-mate Hamilton to run out of time to complete his out lap in the dying minutes of qualifying.

Despite the McLaren one-two on Saturday, Dennis and Hamilton's father Anthony were a picture of fury after the incident, while championship leader Hamilton said: "It definitely needs a good explanation.

"I will definitely ask the team when I go back and have the debrief.

"Your guess is as good as mine," the Briton told reporters. "I'm not angry, I'm curious as to what's gone on."

 

It looks like the U.S. took the old chip in the shoulder inheritance that England had towards Spain.

 

Once again, people, you are reacting based on assumptions.

When I read or hear of an official statement from the McLaren team and/or the FIA, only then is it fair to judge what went on.

 

Yes, I saw qualifying, and yes I asked WTF is going on?!?!?!. However, I will not point a finger at Alonso until I have heard everything that has to be said from the team and/or the FIA.

 

REGARDLESS of who's fault on the team it was, let's reverse the roles for a moment: picture Alonso sitting behind Lewis. Fred would have been FLAMING MAD on the track, in the press room, in the paddock, etc. I don't even want to think what would have happened had it been Juan Pablo....
So kudos to Lewis for doing his best to keep his head cool, wherever the fault lies.

 

Yes, Lewis kept a very cool head, I was impressed with his maturity. He has every right to be livid with whomever is at fault for this. Luckily for him, he posted a lap time good enough to keep him on the front row.

Now what the hell happened with Massa?!?!?! Now there was a SNAFU.

 

If the FIA does not penalize FA on this they will lose the very little credibility they have left. It is fairly obvious that Alonso held up LH (whether he did it himself or it was a team decision really is irrelevent) causing him to miss his last chance at a fast lap. If FA had pulled to the end of the pit lane and blocked Kimi or Hiedfield he would have immediately been blacked flagged and excluded. IMO this is really no different except that it took place in a pit box, but its really no different that blocking on the track, he used his position as an advantage to prevent an opponent having a chance to beat him.

 

Yes, so even Lewis himself needed more information before coming to a conclusion. AND HE IS THE ONLE WHO ULTIMATELY LOST OUT!!! (unless Alonso is ultimately found to be at blame, and then penalized) I guess everyone here already blaming Alonso knows better.............

If what has been said about Borra is true, then Alonso should be disqualified from the race.

 

I dont see how anyone can see this as an honest mistake.
And the proof is in Alonso's interveiw, evading the question, not looking at LH even once ( but at NH several times ), no appologies where one would be given if this were incidental.
The Mclaren official press relese will be political as should be expected.
Take the gloves off Lewis !!!!
From now on FA, to me, will be Alonshole as stated by ricksb.

 

Lewis is a class act. He leaves all of the finger-pointing and second-guessing to F-Chat and the media

 

Did anyone witness Borra giving Alonso a signal? How did this theory come to be?

 

If you watched the press conference it was fairly clear that Lewis thought Alonso was to blame, however he is smart and decent enough not to outright say it as that would have plenty of negative repurcussions of its own.

His comments about "asking the team" and missing his hot lap by "about the same amount of time I was held up" make it seem fairly clear that he has come to the same conclusion that most of us have.

But maybe your right, maybe Alonso just dozed off in the pit box and it was all a total accident...then again, if having 780 pages of Ferrari technical data didn't give McL an advantage what could Alonso hope to gain from stealing pole

 

You guys are completely missing the point. The point is the World Championship. Period end of story... it WINNING that counts these days. Playing the game is nice but bending the game to your own will is how Championships are won. It's a rather sad fact but a fact nonetheless.

Nowdays nice guys, sportsman if you will, are relagated to first loser (or worse) status. This is the big leagues, this is for ALL the marbles, and Fred's not so subtle reminder to Lewis about this came in form of a lesson... some lessons are harder than others to take. I think Lewis took this lesson like a true future champion... like someone mentioned, could you imagine the hissy fit if the shoe was on the other foot?! You go Lewis!

Races are not won in the first turn or the first lap. Lewis slides in behind Freddy tomorrow on the start and sets sail for finish line. My prediction: LH passes Alonso beginning the second lap, coming into or out of the first turn... and all Freddy's gonna see for the rest of the day is his mechanic holding a "P2" on the pitboard each time he comes around.

 

Unfortunately, nowadays, many races are.

 

Lewis Hamilton had set the pace throughout qualifying and was comfortably fastest after the first flying laps in Q3.

But before starting his final run Alonso appeared to wait in the McLaren pit stall for several seconds after he had been released to go, forcing team-mate Hamilton to queue behind him.

That was not an assumption it happened the team released him, Oh I get it he had an bolloc juggling moment..

 

Who is going to disqualify him ? Ron ?
Internal politics will not be aired for the good of the team.
Look at LH during the interveiw ! Listen to what he said.
Alonshole is trying to win the WDC and he has the direct ability to control his destiny by F ing his closest competitor; LH. He will do whatever it takes.
I hope LH has the natural talent to overcome FA's treachery.