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SPEED commentators reaction about Scott Speed getting canned

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  1. bennett

    bennett Formula Junior

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    Did anyone else see the reaction of the SPEED TV commentators about Scott Speed getting the boot? They certainly didn't seem happy. Peter Windsor walked through a display of approximately how much money was spent to bring Speed to F1 by Red Bull Racing, and it roughly totalled $53.3M. They also showed a graphical comparison between Speed and Liuzi. Since the team said he was canned simply on performance, SPEED TV proved that he was much better than his teammate in categories such as number of cars passed, number of laps before being lapped, qualifying position, etc.
    I know there's been a lot of discussion about Speed on these forums, but does this not help his chances? I know we are a bit laughed at in the US when it comes to motor racing(driving in circles makes $billions), but with the only media that covers F1 in the States, does this not bolster his possibility of being picked up?
     
  2. tonyc

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    I do not know if it bolsters his chances of being picked up, since the people that could/world pick him up may not watch speed, but I was very happy that speed put that together. It shows that Scott Speed was not fired due to his driving since he clearly outperformed his team mate. I hope Red Bull does not give up on him.
     
  3. SonomaRik

    SonomaRik F1 Veteran

    was a Scott Speed fan due to his ability to interact with the media, seem like a common 'joe', and 'seemed' to be doing ok

    Didn't believe he did as good as SPEED depicted: Surprised!!!

    What the commentators did on SPEED for Scott was very very good: Loved it and hope he gets reinstated somewhere in the sport.
     
  4. maxorido

    maxorido Formula 3

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    I saw Peter Windsor interviewing Franz Tost about it. Peter mentioned that when comparing their statistics, Speed looks the same if not a little better than Liuzzi. Franz seemed at a loss for words, and repeated the same old "we expected more from his performance" line. So Speed being fired has much more to do with politics and personality clashing than performance on the track.
     
  5. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    It's a little difficult to get on with the team after you've had a physical altercation with the boss - I think he simply pi$$ed off the wrong guy where Tonio kept his mouth shut. Just lifted this from a Gerhard Berger interview on formula1.com:

    > Q: Was the impetus to replace Scott just down to what had happened at Nurburgring or was it the result of an ongoing feeling of dissatisfaction?
    > GB: The decision had nothing to do with what had happened at Nurburgring. It was a decision that had already been made before. We had not been happy with the performance and attitude of Scott for a long time, and the Nurburgring race was the last straw and led to his dismissal.

    I think the key word here is "attitude", not "performance"....... I do actually feel a little sorry for the guy - Hopefully he can get a seat in IRL/Champcar and blow some doors off!

    Cheers,
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  6. cantsleepnk

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    Good Post . What's Ron Dennis Email? . He needs to read it to fire LH.
     
  7. speedy_sam

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    Peter Windsor is kinda straddling both sides of the fence. In some of his commentary on TV he comments about how Scott makes mistakes. But he always acts nice and positive to him face to face in the grid walk. Possibly because Scott is one the few people who actually talks to him at the grid.

    I thought Scott came across as a earnest, open chap in interviews. But talent wise he was nothing special. Sure he showed a few flashes of speed but he made quite a few mistakes. To me, he or for that matter Liuzzi is no better than say a Christian Klien. I would love to see Seb Bourdais (sp?) in his place
     
  8. moretti

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  9. wetpet

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    i always find that funny, and a little sad. i sorta feel bad for the guy since everybody usually has a microphone in their face, but none of them will talk to peter.
     
  10. bennett

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    But what if he had been in a better car? I know that arguement has been made before, but I don't know his driving outside of a terrible car in which he outperformed his teammate. Alas, we may never know.
     
  11. PhilNotHill

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    GB: Performance and attitude.

    Translation, unless you are winning races, you better have a good attitude. Good attitude means going out of your way to get along with everyone, especially the boss. Very simple really. Scott Speed was not so good that he could not easily be replaced. With no US GP he had no fan interest. Why should Berger put up with is lip?

    Golden Rule: He who has the Gold Rules. Berger has the gold. Scott has the opportunity to update his resume'.
     
  12. jimshadow

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    Has Speed been officially let go? I thought they said on Sunday that he has not officially been released from RBR...
     
  13. Fast_ian

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    I believe that Peter is involved in Scotts "management team" somewhere along the line..... Given DC's willingness to talk with him, I also *think* it's the same there.....
     
  14. SMS

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    We have now seen someone else qualify and race Scott's car. In June, that someone else was likened to be the next Schuey by some. Scott always qualified with or ahead of Tonio, and finished (when they did) ahead of him. But this past weekend Liuzzi blew Vettel's doors off.

    Does that tell us anything?
     
  15. speedy_sam

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    Vettel got into an unfamiliar car with virtually no seat time. So obviously it is too early to comment on his performance. Give him a couple races and test session to get his groove.
     
  16. a8guy

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    Red Bull wanted an American for the purpose of marketing. They took speed for that reason almost exclusively. He had a great name- decent personality - was from CA - and wasn't bad looking . He was a poor mans Hamilton to drum up interest in the US. If they bring on someone else from the US - which I would not be surprised if they do - its going to be for similar reasons. They have their other team with Weber and DC for points and Torro Rosso additional exposure. They suck anyways why not just give Danica a seat - **** it - what do they have to lose. There is no other driver that would gain nearly the attention.
     
  17. Brapbrapbrap

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    Personally, I hope Scott goes to Sports Cars and has a long, successful career, like Johnny Herbert and others who were not particularly successful at F1 but perfectly capable drivers otherwise.
     
  18. Formula 1

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    I feel real bad for Speed, he didn't need this at all........I just hope he isn't bitter about F1.
     
  19. toddjw73

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    I think the only thing he is bitter about at this point is the TostBerger Combo.

    As far as the SPEED commentators reaction, I found that to be very good information. We all knew he was doing better than Liuzi this season. I find it hard to belive that they kept Liuzi. If in fact they did boot him due to "performance and attitude", they need to do a reality check and look at themselves and the everyone else in the Team to see what the truth about it all really is. SPEEDs Varsha mentioned during their "Roundtable" session RE: the Hungarian GP - "This was the 1st race without American Scott Speed, in a couple of seasons, replaced by German Sebastian Vettel. Well Vettel Qualified 20th, Finished 16th. STR said they fired SPEED because he wasn't performing in the car. I think givin' what Vettel did, the onis has to be on the car, and not the driver."

    My personal Opinion - F1 has never really thought much about its American fan base, let alone the American Drivers that have actually had the opportunity to race in F1.
     
  20. Brapbrapbrap

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    Last weeks autoweek said that there was a physical altercation between Scott Speed and team manager Franz Tost. Speed told Autoweek that Tost punched him in the back when he returned to the pits after aquaplaning off the track. Tost then evidently tried to manhandle him to the point of ripping the race suit. If you can imagine. Evidently, Speed then told Berger that if Tost ever touches him again, he'll knock him out. The article also states that Tost spent 15 minutes apologizing to Speed at which point he was also critical of Berger.

    Speed is quoted as saying the following: "As far as my future in F1 is concerned, you couldn't pay me enough money to race for those two people again. If it was with a different team, that would be great, but I would also like to do something else with Red Bull, even if it was outside F1."

    There you have it.

    H
     
  21. mk e

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    I haven't followed F1 that long, but whne I was following motorcycles I remember a team firing their rider for poor perfomance and complaining about the bike....he of course won the championship the following year for his new team. It's pretty easy for team owners tend to be less than objective whe it comes down to the problem being the maching they own vs the rider/driver they pay....it's way easier to replace the rider/driver than fix the machine. A team like Honda say that knows the drivers may not be the best, but are pretty freakin good at least know the problem is the machine, I don't think TR believed it was the car....although they might now that the new drivers does worse than the one they fired........
     

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