Either way... Porsche slammed the head on the nail with a sledge hammer! Their statement "Respect Required" is catchy
I have checked with the Nurburgring facilities and with Porsche directly and no one can authenticate these numbers. For the record, the Nurburgring has these numbers as official: Overall & Official Lap Record: Competition & Qualifying Milestones General Note: International motorsport sanctioning bodies used the 20.832 km Nordschleife variant in 1983 only. [edit] Overall Lap Record, Qualifying (i.e., fastest qualifying) * 6:11.13 - Stefan Bellof, Porsche 956, pole-position for 1983 1000 km Nürburgring (202.073 km/h) * 6:16.85 - Jochen Mass, Porsche 956, runner-up qualifier (and winner) in same event (199.005 km/h) [edit] Official Lap Record, Competition (i.e., fastest race) * 6:25.91 - Stefan Bellof, Porsche 956, 1983 1000 km Nürburgring * 6:28.03 - Christian Danner, March-BMW 832, Formula 2, 1983 Eifelrennen (193.272 km/h) * 7:04.00 - Uwe Alzen/Arno Klasen, Porsche 996 Turbo, Castrol-Haugg-Cup 2003 (bettered by about 15 s during videotaped VLN races on 24.4 km track) [edit] Overall Lap Record, Motorcycles * 7:32.6 - "The Baron" Aprilia RSV1000R Factory, reported in PB Magazine August 2007 * 7:49.71 - Helmut Dähne, Honda VFR750R, fastest officially timed motorcycle lap, during Zuverlässigkeitsfahrt, 1993 (series discontinued after 1994) [edit] Unofficial Lap Record On 28 April 2007, Nick Heidfeld drove a BMW Sauber F1.06 Formula One car around the Nordschleife, on a BMW publicity day. Although the official lap time released by BMW Sauber was declared to be 8:34, Road & Track magazine reported that sources at the track had timed Heidfeld's lap to be a 5:57 or 5:58, breaking the track's six-minute barrier for the first time in history.[1] [edit] Current Miscellaneous Lap Records: OEM Passenger Vehicles & Sport Racers * 6:49 - BMW M3-GTR(race version), ~470PS/1100kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck * 6:55 - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (28 Sep 2005) * 7:11 - McLaren F1 (road car), 627 PS/1141 kg, Mika Hakkinen, (11/96) * 7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) * 7:14 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 398 PS/760 kg, Michael Duchting (sport auto 11/05) * 7:15 - Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, deatrick Simon (sport auto 09/05) * 7:18 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duchting (sport auto 12/04) * 7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg, Walter Rohrl, (Autobild 07/04) * 7.32 - Porsche Carrera GT (Sport Auto Trophy, driven by Horst von Saurma) * 7.32 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 PS/1432 kg (Gemballa) * 7:32 - BMW M3 E46 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03) * 7:33 - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/1230 kg (sport auto 05/06) * 7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), Oct 17-18 2005 * 7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04) * 7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05) * 7:40 - Porsche 997 Turbo 480PS/1565 kg Walter Rohrl * 7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS/1320 kg (160.868 km/h), Lucas Luhr (Autobild 07/04) * 7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg, Walter Rohrl (Automobil 05/06) * 7:42 - Ford GT, 550 PS/1521 kg (as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05) (news release, pictures) * 7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02) * 7:44 - Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg (sport auto 02/05) * 7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01) * 7:47 - Porsche 996 GT3 RS (sport tyres)[citation needed] * 7:47 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear (sport tyres) (sport auto 01/07) * 7:48 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 07/06) * 7:49 - Helmut Dahne, Honda VFR750R * 7:50 - Fausto "Faustone" Severi Rsv1000R-Gsxr1000 vs Dahne (SuperWheels's Pattuglia Acrobatica 2002) * 7:50 - Westfield Megabusa, 180 PS/440 kg[citation needed] * 7:50 - Lamborghini Murcielago, (sport auto 06/02) * 7:50 - BMW X5 E53 LM, McLaren F1-engine 750 bhp, Hans-Joachim Stuck (EVO magazine 08/2005) * 7:52 - Porsche 996 GT3 (381 hp)[citation needed] * 7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo[citation needed] * 7:54 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34[citation needed] * 7:55 - Caterham R500 Superlight, 233 PS/460 kg, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000) * 7:55 - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06) * 7:56 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 * 7:56 - Honda NSX-R (NA2), 280 PS/31kgm/1270 kg, Incomplete lap by 30 metres, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best MOTORing 08/02) * 7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo (sport auto 06/00) * 7:56 - Ferrari 360 stradale (sport tyres) (sport auto 02/04) * 7:56 - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series (fastest AMG test engineer) * 7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 hp, racing suspension)[citation needed] * 7:59 - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting Performance, Walter Rohrl, (WHEELS 06/04) * 7:59 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, Dirk Schoymans, unknown modifications (Autocar magazine 1997) * 7:59 - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (11/05) Motor Trend * 7:59 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51,405 PS/1481 kg, driver Dave Hill (manufacturer claim) * 7:59 - Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C (Prototype), 280 PS/1370 kg (Subaru News 2004 [1]) * 8:01 - Bugatti EB 110 Supersport, 610 PS/1410 kg[citation needed] * 8:01 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, 280 PS/37.5 kgf·m/1540 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series [The R33 GT-R]) * 8:03 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005), 380 bhp/1570 kg (sport auto 10/05) * 8:03 - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99) * 8:03 - Honda NSX-R (NA1), 280 PS/30 kgf·m/1230 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best MOTORing 02/06) * 8:06 - Subaru WRX STi Spec-C prototype, 280 PS/42 kgf·m/1370 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring International video "NISMO Beast Unleashed") * 8:07 - Ferrari 550[citation needed] * 8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV[citation needed] * 8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena[citation needed] * 8:09 - BMW M6 E63 (sport tyres) [limited to 259 km/h] (sport auto 12/05) * 8:09 - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg, sport tires, suspension modification (sport auto 08/02) * 8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS (Sport Auto 10/97) * 8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype, 280 PS/40.8 kgf·m/1420 kg, Takayuki Kino****a (Best Motoring International video "Carrera Invasion") * 8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 hp version)[citation needed] * 8:13 - BMW M5 E60, 507 PS (sport auto 12/04) * 8:13 - Ferrari 355 GTB (Sport Auto 10/1994) * 8:15 - BMW Z8 E52, 400 hp[citation needed] * 8:17 - Porsche 996 C2[citation needed] * 8:22 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, 280 PS/36 kgf·m/1430 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series [The R32 GT-R]) * 8:22 - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00) * 8:22 - BMW M Coupe E36/7, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98) * 8:22 - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG (fastest AMG test engineer) * 8:24 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI, sport tires (Sport Auto 05/04) * 8:25 - Jaguar XKR (Sport Auto) * 8:25 - Porsche Cayman S (Sport Auto) * 8:25 - Audi RS4 375 hp[citation needed] * 8:24 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/99) * 8:25 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/02) * 8:26 - BMW 335i E92 Coupe, 300 hp (Sport Auto) * 8:26 - Nissan 350Z (Sport Auto 10/03) * 8:28 - Porsche 911 Carrera (993) (Sport Auto 07/97) * 8:28 - BMW M5 E39 (previous model), 400 hp[citation needed] * 8:32 - Porsche Boxster S (Sport Auto 12/99) * 8.34 - BMW Sauber F1.06 Formula One car, Nick Heidfeld, April 28 2007[1] * 8:35 - BMW M3 E36 Coupe, 321 hp[citation needed] * 8:36 - Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., Oct 2005), sport compact record holder * 8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG[citation needed] * 8:38 - Honda NSX (sport auto, 08/97) * 8:39 - Honda S2000 (sport auto 01/00) * 8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97) (Crash involving civilian later in the lap) * 8:42 - Audi S4 265 hp[citation needed] * 8:42 - Lotus Exige, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/00) * 8:47 - Honda Civic Type-R (Sport Auto 11/01) * 8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe[citation needed] * 8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430[citation needed] * 9:12 - Jaguar S-Type Diesel driven by Sabine Schmitz for an episode of Top Gear (Series 5, Episode 5) * 9:59 - Jaguar S-Type Diesel driven by Jeremy Clarkson for an episode of Top Gear (Series 5, Episode 5) * 10:08 - Ford Transit driven by Sabine Schmitz for an episode of Top Gear (Series 6, episode 7; Bridge to Gantry within tourist traffic)
Walter Rorhl was there 3-4 days ago apparently.......and this was taken from a post on 6 SPEED online. Here is the first post.....and a full one from PCNA's marketing department. http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1260790&postcount=33 http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1260871&postcount=35 Perhaps the Ring has not updated their website yet.......if this information turns out to be incorrect I will be surprised.
The ring typically isn't well suited for Ferrari's. Generally they have short gearing, and are developed on the super smooth tracks back home in Italy where they run the F1 cars. The ring is basically a big street with no speed limits. Lots of bumps and pavement variations. Probably a suspension nightmare to run them stock. I remember hearing the Enzo was losing a second in one corner just because it couldn't negotiate the berm properly due to ground clearance issues.
Actually it's not far from the truth. There is no time for the Enzo because it can't complete a lap; it's too long and low. Ferrari designs their cars around the Fiorano circuit; a flat, smooth, Italian circuit. A suspension designed for that track is going to have a heck of a time handling a mountain road that feels like it was last paved in the Baroque period.
I thought it was the other way around, but now that I think of it I think I read that a while back. Peter Hatch
Holy smokes! I never knew the F1 set a flying lap on the Nordschleife. It's over a decade old and still beating current supercars, including the CGT, Zonda F, SLR, and Veyron! Amazing. Will it ever be dethroned?
