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Why isn't Alonso slammed the was MS was for the qualifing mishap?

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  1. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

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    Maybe I missed it. But half the world wanted MS's head on a plate and I haven't heard word one about Alonso who was perhaps the most outspoken driver when MS was under fire?
     
  2. SrfCity

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    Everyone wants to take a shot at the guy on top.
     
  3. 62 250 GTO

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    So since Alonso isn't on top he can't be punished or accused of anything?

    Odd.
     
  4. maxorido

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    It's a bit different because Michael parked his car on the track. Michael tried to make it look like an accident, but people felt offended because it was so obvious. Alonso's and everyone else who was on it had their hot lap interrupted. Alonso on the other hand only effected his teammate, in the pits, and not at racing speeds. Also, Michael has a bit of a record with fans, of questionable maneuvers. The things he pulled on Damon, Jaques, DC etc. is still in fans minds even today. Alonso catches **** from the fans too, it's just that he hasn't pulled anything quite as "questionable" as Michael on track.
     
  5. PhilNotHill

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    Wasn't Alonshole put back 5 places at the start of the Hungary GP?

    I believe Alonshole thinks he was unfairly punished and is not a very happy camper. Even talk about him not finishing the season with the McCheater Team (aka McLiaren).
     
  6. 62 250 GTO

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    So blocking someone no matter what the reason isn't as important as having some people believe you're a cheater. Let's be glad you aren't in the FIA!!!

    By the way Damon and Jacques pulled a lot of crap in their days too.
     
  7. Mark(study)

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    Blocking multiple cars on the track while they're on a HOT lap (with a fake crash) could get someone killed!

    Blocking your team's pit, from your team-mate could get someone fired.

    If you don't see the difference.......



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  8. Remy Zero

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    he wasn't blocking multiple cars, he was blocking Fred. Fred at that time was the only person capable of challenging his time, and at that point of time, IIRC, it as Fred behind him.

    besides, an accident in the pits is a lot worse than an accident on the track. so save ur excuses.
     
  9. maxorido

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    Well I wasn't saying that was my opinion, I was just telling you the way the situation appears. You know you have an annoying habit of misunderstanding my posts. Anyways, what Michael pulled was worse because it effected multiple drivers on their hot lap. He also tried to play it off as a mistake, but it was obvious to everyone it was deliberate.
     
  10. Mark(study)

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    Its not about who had a chance to beat MS's lap time....it was the fact that there were other cars on the track at the time he parked it. Even a slow F1 car could have hit MS's Ferrari parked across the track like it was, and other people could have been hurt! And a guy on his Hot lap for 8th insted of 9th can still be blocked when MS parked on the race track...seems he was only thinking about himself?

    Accidents in the pits are bad (durring a race) these guys were just sitting there after a tire change? Not like a fueling accident durring a race.. He was just sitting there counting 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8......30 seconds. I'd guess a 7 second stop for fuel and tires is dangerious! But this was a long slow stop...THAT was the problem ;)

    "So save ur excuses" was a very rude thing to say..... don't you think? :) no problem



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  11. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    +1 I can't believe a thread about this even exists. People honestly can't see the difference?
     
  12. ernie

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    Fact of the matter remains that Fernando is nothing but a cry baby. Look at how he was reacting when he said Renault "did want him to win" last year when Schumi was ahead in the points. Now it's the same thing at McLaren. He is nothing but a whiney baby, that got pissed because the new sheriff in town didn't bow down and let him pass during qualifying. So what does he do, he plays games in the pits and tries to blame it on "team orders". YEAH RIGHT! I hope this turns out the same way it did for Schumi (though I did want Michael to win his last GP season) and the because of this dumbass stunt it costs Alonso the championship, just the way Michael's stupid maneuver at Monaco cost him the championship last year. I really hope Lewis Hamilton wins the championship this year, I really do.
     
  13. Jack-the-lad

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    Don't try to reason with the Alonso-hating fanboys. They'll never forgive him for taking away Schrumi's championships.....

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  14. 62 250 GTO

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    So people talk about an Alonso mishap and that means we hate him. You dig that Alonso took WDC's from MS, does that mean you hate MS?

    Talk is just talk, don't turn this into a him vs. him thread.

    I was asking because I've been in and out of the loop of F1 for a few weeks.

    Yeah yeah MS did a couple naughty things but Alonso is a cry baby whiner, what do you want? Heads or tails? Even hami has a bad side.
     
  15. 62 250 GTO

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    You have 2 posts saying how MS risked lives. Where? The slowest corner on the the slowest track of the year? You tell me to "see the difference". HA!

    At most, a car would lose a wing, bodywork or a wheel.

    Get real, no life was in danger.

    By The Way, Pit lane is where there are a hundred guys walking around without the protection of a car with a "survival cell" in it.
     
  16. dsd

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    I dis-like Alonso, but he did not take Championships away from MS. He earned them.

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  17. 62 250 GTO

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    He was saying it that way to get a dig in at the MS fans, like a child no less.

    Let's see Alonso win 7 or 5 in a row.

    Better hope it's between feedings and nap times though.
     
  18. ernie

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    Forgive???? He got LUCKY! Yes LUCKY. The first championship he "won" was because the FIA and all the teams changed the rules so that Ferrari couldn't win any more. Then there was the other retarded rule of one set of tires for the whole race. Then we have the truly despicable act that happened at Indy when the Michilen runners didn't race, and wanted to further CHANGE the rules because of the their tires. Yeah It was okay for the Ferrari's to have crap tires, but when the shoe was on the other foot they weren't to excited about crap tires were they. So yeah Fernando got LUCKY that year. Then we have last year, when Schumi basically shot himself in the foot with the stupid stunt at Monaco, again another lucky win. OOOOOOOHHHHH yeah then we have the mysterious engine failure of the Ferrari at the end of the season to give Fernado his win. Though I did think it was a bit funny when Alonso gave Michael that smartass wave. Now what was I saying what I was saying? Ah yes, Hmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if it had anything to do with the spy scandal that broke out a couple of weeks ago with the two mechanics from McLaren and FERRARI, I wonder I just wonder. Fernado is a lucky boy and now that there is new REAL talent on the track, again, Mr. Lucky doesn't like.

    Too bad so sad, whiney baby Fernado, to date Schumi is still the greatest of all time, and Lewis is the new sheriff in town.
     
  19. 62 250 GTO

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    Seriously, this isn't why I started the thread.

    And don't start in on records.

    Some are for them and some are against them.
     
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    +1.

    Pete
     
  21. 62 250 GTO

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    Did you read the first post?

    Did you read the reason why the thread was created?

    I can't believe people post in threads without reading or understanding the posts involved.

    Oh, and I'll assume you're more of an Alonso fan than Schumacher fan.
     
  22. 62 250 GTO

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    And yet a second one who most likely didn't read the posts I mentioned in the post above this one.

    There's power in numbers I guess.
     
  23. PSk

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    LH was parked stationary behind him ... where is the chance of an accident? The other difference is that MS simply lied about everything and cheated on the track ... never seen Alonso do anything weird on the track. MS resorted to this behaviour every second race. MS had also a race or 2 earlier faked a spin to improve his race strategy, and as good as MS can drive, he is a completely useless stunt driver! I could fake a spin better :D

    And ernie, the FIA helped MS and Ferrari win those early championships as much as they could ... so should those not count?. Also any team wins when the other team is not perfect, that helped Ferrari too, ie. Williams went down hill by the year 2000, Renault was not up to speed ... thus the only team MS was racing was McLaren and Mika. From my memory Mika did alright against the God almighty MS, even won a couple of WDC. So sorry mate many of MS's championships were simple because the Ferrari was the only competitive car on the grid, especially 2001 on ... and ofcourse MS had to have his team mate neutered.

    Yes MS was a great driver, but by no means the greatest champion ever ... records are just numbers.
    Pete
     
  24. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Yes.

    Yes.

    Great.

    Don't care for either.
     
  25. bernardo66

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    Reminds me of something my old CEO would say: "the higher you go, the more people can see under your dress. " ;)
     

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