I have been a Vettel supporter since I saw him drive during practice at Indy last year, but I feel Scott had been doing very well in the STR lately and did not deserve to be sacked. I truly hope he gets at least a testing ride for next season if not a race seat drive. I know he may have burned all his bridges by talking bad about Berger, but if Berger really decked Speed, then Scott deserves to be able to say what he did without penalty. Either way, I'm pulling for Vettel. Just judging but what I saw at Indy last year, he could be something special. Mark
Speed got sacked because he forgot the Golden Rule and mouthed off to his superiors, namely Berger. The Golden Rule: He who has the Gold...Rules.
Just another showing of how it's the car's fault and obviously not the drivers. Speed got screwed as will Liuzzi at the end of the season.
thats what i've been saying all this while. i'm afraid Seba's career will be destroyed because of this move. he should have followed Nelson Piquet Jr's advice.
Scott Speed will never race for F1 again. His behavior ticked off everybody in the paddock. Vettel isn't doing so hot right now, but he is still young and eventually will reach a level Speed would never have. But more importantly: What is the point of this thread? Let's assume Vettel destroys the car in every race going forward, will you guys start a petition that will bring Speed back?
Why? He is an arrogant prick who never accepted fault, blamed everybody around him, threw the car off the track more than once, didn't apologize and didn't think he had to work hard for his seat. As a TV viewer I only heard him in the interviews and thought he was overly optimistic, cocky, naive and just plain weird. But apparently that was only the tip of the iceberg. He must have been a real primadonna with his team. I'm talking about Speed btw, not Montoya.
oh... on the serious side, i think he wasn't treated like a professional. i don't know, maybe i just have thing thing against STR.
There is a lot wrong with STR, no doubt. Their marketing concept is idiotic (the paint job doesn't allow other sponsors), that affect the budget. Tost is way out of his league and Berger plays his own abrasive games. I came across an article by a serious F1 mag, that lists STR's problems as having the two biggest morons as team manager. That's kinda funny response to Berger's interview from a couple of months ago where he said they have the two biggest morons as drivers. I actually agree with both statements: Liuzzi, Speed, Tost and Berger all ought to be replaced. One down, 3 to go.
haha...now thats some funny stuff. but on the serious side, i don't like the entire team at all. i don't thik they're really bothered about sponsors, as the owner was quoted saying he don't need any sponsors on the cars for another 5 years at least i think. i also don't like the fact that the team blames the drivers for every damn thing.
You're referring to Dietrich Mateschitz, the CEO of Red Bull. Well, if he said that, it didn't give you the whole picture: The team's budget is 1/3 TV money (from FOM), 1/3 Mateschitz and 1/3 Gerhard Berger. Mateschitz' money is of course coming from Red Bull cans, but Berger's money is his own private money. While Berger isn't poor, he has understandably no interest in bankrolling this team forever. I expect some changes in this structure for 08. Well, the drivers did screw up a lot. The cars aren't great, but the drivers did make a lot of mistakes and DNFs. The straw that broke the camel's back was when Speed came back to the pits at Nuerburgring after he just threw the STR into the gravel. When Tost asked him what that was all about, Speed went on the attack for why his pitstop lasted so long. That's a bit like wrecking your father's Ferrari and then complain to him why the CD player wasn't working.
He did what he had to do to get a starting ride. Others will notice especially if he does well vs Vettel, which in reality is as good as driving against an equal in a midfield team. This may open a door that didnt exist before. Vettel may have to take some time to get used to the car, a couple of races, but then should equal Liuzzi if he has the stuff.
Now hold on, the way I read it went down is Speed "asked" not "went on the attack" about the pit stop. Tost was being ****** about it, so Speed then walked away and that's when Tost decided to be a coward and hit him from behind. You called Speed overly optimistic and naive, well wtf do you want him to say in driver interviews? "This is pointless, we probably woln't even finish the race, you wanna drive?" All Scott would usually say is that they "Might have a shot at the points if some of the top cars drop out". Other drivers say this all the time, it's nothing new. I'm sensing a huge bias against Speed here. Also, you even admitted yourself that Tost and Berger aren't cut out for the job. Well, the team and car have to be sorted out before the drivers. The drivers can only do so much.
Believe what you want. I had no bias against Scott Speed originally until I heard him in the interviews. Just an unpleasant dork. So yes, by now I do have a bias against him. But who cares how I feel about him? Fact is, that nobody in the paddock misses him and that's the end for his F1 career.
Yes really. I read it over and over again in various different F1 magazines while I was in Europe. No, I don't have one handy right now (with a few exceptions I toss all the stuff after reading), but you can take my word for it.
Speaking of: I'm sensing here some patriotic bias on your side. In most cases I agree with your comments, but in this particular issue I think you're letting the Stars & Stripes get the better of you. I have lived about half my life in Europe and half in the US, so I think by now I have an equal bias pro and against either culture. I would love nothing more than to see an American make it in F1, but Speed wasn't the answer. And I have said it before: Racing fans in this country should worship Mario Andretti. He is right up there with the best of the best with all he accomplished in his racing career. Only very few people come even close to him. This driver cannot be praised enough.
I think the fact is that nobody in the paddock misses any driver who leaves F1 from a backmarker team. Not Albers, not Klien, not Doornbos, not Wilson. It's the same reason no one will miss Vettel when he leaves F1 after proving he is not fast.
