Sultan of Brunei's Car Collection

Yuma-
I have been told that the cars were nearly identical, except that the one we have a drawing of (LM1) has a blue band in its graphic layout, and the other Black LM (LM4) had a red one in it's place. I can play with the color on the original drawing and make a representation of this later.

>8^)
ER

 

Actually, I'd very much like to see that If you want to...

 

After being confused and riddled about the Dauer's since October last year, I now finally know wich is wich. Especially #169 (the homologation car) was a hard one, because at one point in it's life it looked exactly the same as #133 (that went to Brunei). Unfortunately almost all the yellow/yellow cars in my gallery appeared to be #169, instead of #133, so I had to take those out. On a happy note: I had enough material (articles and vids), where I could take out picstures of #133 :] Though not taken during nice photoshoots, they do give a good view of the car.

A couple dozen new pictures of #133 can be found at the bottem of the Dauer Gallery:
http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/5.html

Besides being shown on the Frankfurt, Dubai and Singepore Autoshows I also think #133 was at the Buenos Aires, Argentina Autoshow.

As for how many went to Brunei, 5 or 6? In an interview in (probably) late 1993 (at the time of the Singapore Autoshow, Jochen Dauer states that 6 Dauers were sold allready. Maybe that's the complete Brunei order?

I think these 11 pictures show #133 (with different rims and springs in rear suspension) how it went to Brunei the first time (the 2nd time was in 1997, after it had had been refitted with a red interior, tinted windows, different wheels and the semi-automatic gearbox in the middle of the cockpit):
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658860&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658861&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658865&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658871&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658880&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658881&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658882&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658884&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658885&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658887&last=true&first=true
http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658858&first=true


BTW: I've also added three new pictures of #172, the black car, to the gallery.

 

@peloton25

Hi
Thanks, that would be great!

Btw:
I always wondered, if the intake ( infront of the rear wheels) on the cars left is something the Sultan special ordered?
I can't really imagine, that the artist of this drawing draws something which isn't there!

So, would it make a technical sense to add this intake on the cars left?
The other known LM's only have their intake on the cars right, and the GTR's another small one the cars left.

Greetings

 

That's probably because the drawing has the car 'mirrored' on it. I've got a 'right' version of that drawing somewhere, but I can't find it :/

 

Here it is. I think someone in this thread shopped this, but don't know for sure anymore:
http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96260_flipped_the_image1_removed_the_artist_signature_and_removed_the_license_plate_text0_added_support_for_wing_and_details_are_now_correcty_122_1075lo.jpg

 

Yup i took quite afew blasts in rhd F40's, and F50's and that green Dauer in Pic, woooo hoooo, gives the 288evo a run for the money!

 

Is that building in the background one of the Brunei garages?

Would that mean you also drove the 288Evo, since you're able to compare...?

 

Yeah, Peloton25 orginally posted that pic, and its inverted too as garages on wrong side from where the car sits, ahh i miss them garages, tut, full of autoporn!

 

Yeah i drove that car, but there was a catch! and thats a tale to be told another time, yeah the building is part of workshops

 

If the car is really "mirrored" in that drawing, then why is the plate correct...?
It's hard to believe, that the artist draws that car, mirrored it and afterwards draws the plate - makes no sense to me

 

Okay - I edited the original image to give the impression of what I was told LM4 should look like and attached a link to it below. I even took the time to modify the license plate to match what LM4 was shown to have on the Garage #5 list.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/McLaren-F1_large.jpg

As mentioned by others since your post, the original drawing is believed to be reversed. The drawing implys we are looking at the left side of the car but the details prove its actually the right side that was drawn in reverse. I have previously suggested that the artist was looking at an image that was flipped - such as a reversed negative - or possibly was using a slide projector and placed this image in backwards when creating this drawing. It is clear to myself and others that a few more details in the drawing are not as the should be. In addition to the large vent which you are questioning, the positioning of the windscreen wiper as drawn here is wrong. It should attach to the car left of the center line and lay across the window in the opposite direciton. Also the wheel nuts should be red on the side of the car seen in the drawing and instead they are colored blue.

There is the chance the artist felt the car would look better in his drawing positioned the opposite way and simply chose to draw it backwards without realizing (or caring) that the design of the car was not totally symetrical. Someone could try asking him via the contact info on his website. Unfortunately I have not received another reply from him on either of the two additional emails I sent in regards to this image after receiving the original reply. In the email he did respond to, he confirmed it's relation to his time spent in Brunei and the fact that this car was real as illustrated and belonged to the Brunei Royal Family. Here's a portion of the text from his initial reply:

When he says he "took this image" in Brunei, I am left to suspect that he took a photo of it and produced the illustration by referencing that photo later on.

Incidentally, the vent you are asking about fed a large oil cooler on the right side of the car. I think it would be highly unlikely for that item to have been placed on the other side of the car for any reason since the oil tank was also located on that side of the car. The way the LMs were built, the left (opposite) side storage compartment was actually retained as storage with a solid side panel, though without the trimming inside that was found on an F1 road car. On the GTRs, that left storage compartment housed the equipment for the on-board jacking system. No GTRs or LMs should have a large vent on the side of the car depicted in the drawing. The GTRs did feature a smaller vent in that location, but it was not incorporated into the LMs based on what we have seen of the three we have real photos of.

Yes, the reverse image was photoshopped by someone on AF.com in about 5 mins. You'll notice that he took the time to add a wing upright that was overlooked by the artist on the original drawing. He also removed the license plate lettering and artists signature so those would not be seen as backwards in the "corrected" version.

I really think it means what I proposed earlier - that the artist felt the illustration would look better from this angle, but failed to correct or account for certain details that really only people like us would notice. Obviously he wouldn't draw the license plate backwards though. That would just be foolish.

>8^)
ER

 

Cool Your source for this information is trustworthy?

 

I only noticed now That's hilarious - a hovering wing!

 

Extremely nice.

 

I wouldn't have spent all that time editing the picture if I didn't have faith in the source of the info.

>8^)
ER

 

In the 'separation' photo with the A-F labels, what is the car in front of A just beyond the pillar to the left? It looks silver. I just got a new nvidia8800gtx video card and its amazing how much I can zoom on this photo. Is there software to fill in the gaps so we can make out these cars better?

 

Sweet.. do share the about the 288evo too, when you can

Well, i hope some day ,I would buy one of the RHD F40's and get it registered in aussie or uk.. If there is any for sale. Heard from someone here, that a white rhd is in HK. Anyone knows how much it was sold for

 

I can't make out any detail on that car. I did realize I have another version of that image scanned by someone else that is a little larger. Maybe someone else will find it useful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20E/09rty1.jpg

>8^)
ER

 

This is the only white (non-Brunei) F40 that I know. It is in Hong Kong, but isn;t RHD.
http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps/narrive/f40_e.htm

 

nice white F40. Thanks for the pics and link


Do you know, if any of the F40's left Brunei? or any pics of it.

 

Yes, one ex-Brunei F40 is out there (was grigio silverstone with TR interior, but has been brought back to stock by the dealer). It has been sold by Talacrest, pics can be found in the gallery:
http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/6.html

 

If i remember correctly the other black LM was the le mans replica race car which sounded fantastic we had one ex Mclaren engineer who used to test drive all the Mclarens every friday (what a job)

 

Hey!

Sounds more like 09R to me...

Greetings

 

So, I assume the rest are with the Royal family.
Hmm.. Guess, it would be a matter of time before they sell another

Nice site by the way