old timers!!! 1977, united win the fa cup after a jammy goal deflected in off the back of jimmy greenhoff, denying newly crowned league champions liverpool a famous treble as they go on to win the european cup in rome a few days later. ahh, happy days...
I generally agree with Lung's points, save for 8.5 and 9. On brakes, I found my Gallardo's brakes incredible. So much bite that I literally moved forward in my seat on heavier braking. Comparing stock with stock, no ceramics. Ferrari I found adequate, but with much less bite. Surprising that Lung's views are diametrically opposed. On dealerships, I have heard the same about HSM but on a personal note, my dealings with them thus far - as a noob with no exotic cars in Singapore - have been very pleasant and professionalism. They have treated me with a great deal of respect. Perhaps there is a higher "circle of inclusion" for repeat customers, but I am extremely happy with the level of service the HSM team have provided me thus far. Eurosport guys are teriffic, especially Mel. Best.
I agree the G has bite...but its not progressive bite... its very digital unlike the Ferrari. Thats where the feel come in.
*A What I am really trying to say: 1A) I hate Lambos 2A) I have had more Ferraris than any of you so better remember that do not ever dare contradict my supreme opinions 3A) I own Ferrari so my taste is naturally superior to all of you. I only say I like the looks of Lambo because I owned one before so I not stupid to contradict myself in front of my gullible subjects, yes I was referring to YOU! 4A) I am the best driver, most of you action action only 5A) I am feeling momentarily guilty so I am saying some nice things, but hey wait did you know your exotic is just an oversized Audi? 6A) Even my fart sounds better. 7A) Even when it comes to shifting (shafting) I perform better geddit? You fools spend a fortune on clutch replacements 8A) Honestly I am just patronizing you gullible wannabes. I hate Lambos because some inferior nobodies beat me to the punch and got a murcie and an SL. How can they be better than me, the KING? 8.5A) My royal ass is so big that I need CCM to help me slow down. 9) I like to be special, Eurosports treats everyone the same, so that means I am not king. Why would I want to spend my money and still be treated the same as ES treats you? See how HSM treats me? I am KING, they make me feel my balls are the LARGEST. Both HSM and ES has been good to me, you know why? Because I am the richest, the bestest, the one you all should be worshipping. Even my holidays are different to yours. So you all better get it in your stinking heads from now on. All together now, whos your daddy? Now you people better get it into your thick skulls as to who is the KING. Remember only my opinions matter. My next post will be HaHaHa so when I laugh you all must follow or I will squash you.
1977? I wasnt even ard for most of the year...all you old farts... ok la..at least I got some seniors here to look up to...haha who wants to pay me for knips's location tonight..
saw a red one just now while I was riding...going up Mandai Hill..pretty awesome sight....but I much prefer your previous ying yang
Most interesting read but I don't have such kind words though. I can't quite remember about my Gallardo but yes I think your comments on the brake is spot-on. I recall the day when I first test drove them, I had much trouble 'feeling' the stopping power whereas it's very natural on all other cars I've had. The seating position never got me comfortable, the rear wall is too high & I'm lucky to have the electric seats. It died on me a few times during slow movements when the idling starts to fluctuate but it did re-start without fail. Not something I'd expect from a 3/4 mill car & they said it's just soiled MAF causing wrong fuel/mixture. Fixed it & happened again. The gearbox? oh yes that one that we decide to call it character which has some truth there cos they improved & smoothen it so much that I thought it became a CVVT autobox! It is quite stirling in other areas like road holding & acceleration. Great car for a novice like me, I could throw it into corners unlike anything & yet it grips on without fail. Tracked it hard, pushed it fast on the NS & back to work next day without fail. Not a visit to the workshop for tuning or heard of any loose nuts whatever. By then I've got used to the brake pressure. Some cars needs time. Well, I suppose the only forgiving point is that this is the first new model that Audi has done with Lambo & a very good effort @ that. It did sell very well, stirred many hearts & stole many clients from Ferrari. Whereas Fiat-Ferrari has built dozens of models & improved over the years in line with their experience from real F1 ground. The Murcie feels a little old school especially with the manual box. After all this time, I think the E-gear suits this mammoth better than a manual box as opposed to the Gallardo. The E-gear on Gallardo makes it too easy to drive while the M requires more effort in every department so the Egear compensates that. The manual box on the Gallardo is a different animal altogether. I would love to savour an LP640 with Egear & 50? more Bhp Otherwise, I'm very comfortable with the M's rear sight, steering feel, gearbox, clutch etc. It's been most reliable so far with me & limited to topping up 2L of oil after few months & a trackday. The cracking cabin sound is easily fixed by them greasing the joints of the leather. But I have a feeling the clutch is losing, not my driving but due to mileage & I just found out that's an engine out job On costs of maintenance, the pre 430 Ferraris have the dreaded 3yr belt-job. An easily S$5-10K job that stretches anything from 3-21days depending on parts & time. While the engine is out, you'd need to replace this & that which adds up. Ouch! Again, current crop of Lambos are too young to face any major job. Though they don't need the 3yr engine out belt job. Once it hits 50K km+ which might warrant water pump seals, valve adjustments? etc etc. that job would be quite costly IMO. On relationship. I'd leave it to you guys, as everybody has their day & I suppose if you're sincere & humble in your approach, everybody will treat you fairly.
The SL we are talking about is the Lambo Superlegarra. Not the other merc SL....now thats a OPCBC...of which I have one as my daily drive..
Yeah, i don't get what's with the high transfer fee? What is LTA trying to discourage? the transfer process should be cheap to enable owners to sell their cars and buy new ones so there will be newer cars on the road, less pollution, etc. Those buying a 2nd hand car are perhaps those we are more cost conscious (like me) and shouldn't be slapped with another high tax. The driver population would be alot happier if tranfer fee is low - would be like a drivers club, swap cars more often to experience driving a variety of cars - happy population = more support/votes for existing politicians.
Thank you for taking the time to pen down your experience with both cars, and in such detail. Few i have spoken to have had the privilege to have been both Lambo and Ferrari owners. What you said about doing the "gallardo thing' makes sense, perhaps we will never know until we try it, and heck we have to try it to get over with it. Likewise, I have never done the "EVO/WRX" thing and i must say it is tempting to find a friend with one just to try it out. Now that i am in the market for a Lambo, the other question is M or G. The M is a bigger car but when i study the dimensions, it is about 10cm wider and 28cm longer than a G, or 10 cm wider and 14 cm longer than a Modena, or 4cm longer than a F430. Curious how does this translate into actual driving experience. I saw a range rover the other day and checked out it's specs. The range rover is actually a wider/longer vehicle yet the lady driver seems comfortable manouvring it. The S-class or 7-series is although 12-14cm narrower than a M, but it is also about 45cm longer. Then i started thinking about drivers of Mercedes Vito vans and minibuses. If these drivers can park and steer their vehicles through traffic, then the M should be ok. At this point i realized it all about comfort and confidence driving. I have been driving my TT for sometime now and am very comfortable zippy in and out of lanes. My modena is slightly wider and longer, but i still need to get used to switching lanes (partly also because the side mirrors feel like it amplifies the car behind, making it look like it is alot closer). To cut a long story short, i think it is all about visibility. If we had a birds eye view, traffic jams would seem so much easier. But with blindspots, changing lanes is just scarier. My gut feel is that the gallardo (vs M) would be more fun to drive zipping in and out of lanes, but after driving it, one might still feel the urge get a M in order to get over the "M thing".
Another insightful contribution. Thanks so much. This is very very helpful coming from the only person i know who has owned both the G and the M.
also curious that a rock star like Akorn drives a Gallardo instead of a Murcie. In the US the price difference is not much + Akorn could surely afford either. The roads are also wider in the US, yet he chose the smaller lambo. I assume dealers would let him test drive both models.
Edward, I faced the G versus M dilemma when I was contemplating what to buy in the US and chose the G for the following reasons: - More tossable. Although a heavier car than the F430 and with 4-wheel drive, it is a lighter car than the M and emminently more tossable. I've had way more fun on the twisties than my fellow compadres who have had the M. The M is brilliant in a straight-line but just doesn't compare when the road turns. - Build quality. G's are automated wherein M's are still hand-built. While that may result in less "exclusivity" (does anybody really care), it provides awesome (Audi) build-quality. No body gaps, no creaks, no groans, no nothing. Want to drive the car in the pouring rain? No problem. Stuck in traffic and need to blast the AC at Hi all day? No big deal. The car takes anything you give at it. In contrast, M's are just as quirky as Prancing Horses. - Easier to drive. The M is a BIG car. Takes a lot of getting used to on dimensions. Do-able / drive-able? Of course. Will you always be concerned when chaning lanes. Likely. I've also heard the brakes on the earlier M's were not adequate. I believe M upgraded the brakes in 2005 but double-check. - More expensive to maintain / service. News flash: M's are expenseive to service. Jon already referenced the cost of engine-out clutch service for the M. That's just the start. Damage one of those expensive rocker-panels? Wallet's gonna feel a lot lighter. The list goes on. The G, in on contrast, is more moderate (note I didn't say reasonable - ) on the wallet. I was also influenced by the then-available options for the M which were less than what was provided for on the G. I think that has now been equalized. The M is sex on wheels, and arguable one of the most beautiful car designs ever. However, the G is a perfect car to step into in the Lambo line-up as it provides all the thrills, creature-comforts and fun with much less drama. 520 HP is more power than most of us know what to do with. I personally know of two friends who have moved from a G to an M only to sell the M and come back to a G. They felt it was a lot more fun. I voted the same way. I drove my 6,000 mile in a year and had ZERO problems. Frankly, that's amazing. Obviously Jon chose differently which goes to show there is no right or wrong. But try the G for a while as he did. I think you'll find it's a brilliant, brilliant car. Good luck in your decision.
