The official replica/re-creation thread

The GTO is like this one:
http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51297
How the owner can persist it is real is plain stupid. I think it may even be based on a Datsun 280ZX 2+2 instead of the more correct looking early 240 Z or 260 Z.

 

Mikhail

Looks like a sad waste of a 240Z!

This might help...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/236622

E

 

Amazing what some of these guys want others to believe... Who do they think they are fooling?!?

 

just another fake.

 

Not even close to the real McCoy. It's a Datsun.

 

For the 360 there's a choice in Belgium:
http://www.dreambikes.be/producten.php?cat=Ferrari+Modena&item=Ferrari+Modena+360
your spider:
http://www.kapaza.be/Autos/Ferrari/6448640/Ferrari_mondena_spider_op_chassis_van_toyota_mr_2.html ; this kit came at 60.000 euro according to the ad. That buys you a nice Ferrari, a real one!
best
Jurgen

 

LOL at the owner saying it is a real one..

 

Learned behavior.

Tell a story often enough and it "becomes the truth".
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There is another 250 TR replica for sale at Fantasy Junction.

They say :
"...this beautiful alloy bodied example...
...ultimately finished by respected Ferrari concours perfectionist...
...Largely accurate- dimensionally and mechanically...
...High quality replicas... etc etc "

All I see is wrong on this car (nose, interior, details of the body...).

I wonder where is the satisfaction in owning a replica and again, another 250 GT 2+2 destroyed.

When the massacre will end ???

 

As for the price, it's a bad joke !

 

link ?

 

come on guys it's a ferrari that has been rebodied( most all of the factory race cars of that era have been rebodied) just not blessed by the factory, a great fun driver but for that kind of money....curious to see what it realy sells for..

 

Sur is not a real 250 Tr, sur also that the 250 Tr will be never built by Ferrari.
The work of this replica have been made with attention and passion,
i think the price is quite expensive, time for a good negociation.

 

What would be the real price for such a car??

 

A pontoon TR is as close to automotive sculpture as was ever created on a Ferrari chassis and is instantly identifiable by most car enthusiasts. Since the real ones are north of $5M (and hence unobtainium), I can see a market for rebodies of this type among collectors who have several hundred thousand (but not $5M+) to spend on the ultimate Ferrari. When it's sitting in your garage and you get to look at it, drive it around and show it off to your friends, it won't matter that it wasn't one of the original 21 cars (in fact, it may be a lot easier getting comfortable with driving it around for exactly that reason). Getting excluded from shows and historic car rallies, which are the other main use for a car like this, could take away some of the perceived value, but the FJ listing notes that similar replicas have been approved for the California Mille and the Grande, so that may be less of a concern. An open question is the Monterey Historic Races, which I would guess are still a "no" for a replica, even if it's a rebody on a period Ferrari chassis with Ferrari running gear.

The other big question is resale. If a buyer can feel reasonably confident that demand is such that he can sell it a few years down the line for approximately what he paid, the decision to buy becomes much easier, much like spending several hundred thousand on a Daytona. The history on rebodies like this car is, however, checkered at best. Many have been constructed at huge expense and then sold on after a few years for a considerable loss. Also, the market for a racing Ferrari is relatively small to begin with and becomes tiny when you remove from it all of the people who either are opposed to buying a replica for philisophical reasons or aren't interested because you can't race or show one at the prestige events, which is their main intended purpose for the car. Also remove the people who, although they're not "buying for investment", would still like to get at least some return on their several hundred thousand dollar purchase over a few years and are concerned that, as a rebody, it doesn't have "collector value." The result is that getting out may be a time consuming process and could result in a financial loss.

 

Driver A, I think only at the price of the poor 250 GT 2+2 which has been disfigured.

 

I like it.


In fact, I like it ALOT! Great looking and I bet its a real hoot to drive.


But I do not like it $325K worth. Ouch!




Terry

 

Front looks bloated

 

This type of discussion has been going on for as long as I can remember.

People just decide that they want a different look for their car it really isn't anyone’s business but theirs.

If someone wants to turn a GTE into a GTO replica, they can and will do it - period.

Although the Ferrari is a magnificent car, it's still a car and it's ultimate fate is up to the owner - nobody else.

I've heard people being called criminals and statements made that they should be locked up - FOR WHAT? For personalizing their car?

Others say that you really don't own your Ferrari - your just taking care of it - get real!! IT'S a car! To be driven, looked at, enjoyed, whatever - BUT, how this is done is up to the owner - NOBODY ELSE.

Although I can neither afford or justify a rebody, I plan to make certain modifications to my GTC that will appeal to me and (possibly) nobody else.

Hurt the resale value? I didn't buy it to preserve for the next owner. As selfish as it seems, I bought it for myself and nobody else.

Just think about how many cars have been changed in the past - from minor body enhancements to total rebody. Furthermore, these changes were accomplished by some pretty important and enthusiastic people. I'm pretty sure that one of the Testarossas, a 330, was rebodied to a street coupe and the owner enjoyed it immensely.

I guess that's just the way it is.

Bob Z.

ps - I AGREE WITH TERRY!!!!

 

I remember there was an Italian Company that cut the original body off of an 250 GTO and re bodied it!!!! They used to work on it in a yellow building. There was a Shell station in the forecourt and beautiful trees which they also cut down at some point. I beleive they're now tearing down the yellow building...

Things change. Make yourself happy. Life is short.
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So, if I understand well, you can also scrap your Ferrari or set it on fire only because you are the owner. Incredible arguments !!!

 

Last year Coys sold a Cal Spider replica for 500k in Padova - and that was 500k in euros, so multiply by 1.4 - or whatever it may be at the end of the day... Best wishes, Kare

 

the nose looks wrong as is some of the detailing - however i agree with Terry, i bet its a lot of fun.

ive seen similar (but closer to correct body and engine spec etc) priced higher than that

if a gto is worth $18M then real 250 TR is prob noticeably north of $10M

you can certainly race the replicas over here - and im sure there are series where you could over your side of the pond.
but i think your missing the point of the car though - its not for showing or racing, its for driving.
ultimately its not a race car - its a fun sunday driver, for taking out and having a blast.

personally id rather it was more correct in its spec and body - but if it was then its certainly something id consider if i had the cash.
a genuine gto or tr is so far out of my and most ppls league butthese cars are about more than originality.
if done right then a rebodied car should have the sights, the sounds, the smells and undoubtedly would give all the experience of the real thing, bar the pebble beach bit but at a fraction of the cost (and therefore a fraction of the worry too)

id hope it wouldnt get done to a perfectly serviceable gte (or similar) but a crashed one is a different matter.
besides whilst it might not be original it is complying with a different ferrari tradition - iirc the first 250 gto (#3223) is reputed by some to have possibly been made out of an earlier car