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  1. smg

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    #1 smg, Sep 28, 2007
    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:18.734 38
    2. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:18.948 + 0.214 34
    3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.483 + 0.749 36
    4. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:19.711 + 0.977 35
    5. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:19.714 + 0.980 29
    6. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:19.789 + 1.055 40
    7. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:19.926 + 1.192 39
    8. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.949 + 1.215 33
    9. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:19.969 + 1.235 40
    10. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:20.069 + 1.335 45
    11. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.069 + 1.335 35
    12. Wurz Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.233 + 1.499 37
    13. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.270 + 1.536 43
    14. Button Honda (B) 1:20.336 + 1.602 44
    15. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:20.462 + 1.728 36
    16. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:20.736 + 2.002 37
    17. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:20.889 + 2.155 33
    18. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.985 + 2.251 44
    19. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.997 + 2.263 38
    20. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.007 + 2.273 34
    21. Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:21.305 + 2.571 38
    22. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.352 + 2.618 34
     
  2. tifosi12

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    #2 tifosi12, Sep 28, 2007
    Darn.
     
  3. bigodino

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    #3 bigodino, Sep 28, 2007

    Don't worry, according to Ferrari they were testing long runs in the second session. They were quite happy with Friday.
     
  4. kwiker

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    #4 kwiker, Sep 28, 2007
    :( Ferrari was still faster when i fell asleep....good for my sleep...but what a downer for my morning. Oh well, qualifying is the important part. :) :)
     
  5. Remy Zero

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    #5 Remy Zero, Sep 28, 2007
    don't worry...Ferrari will do ok ;)
     
  6. Qvb

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    #6 Qvb, Sep 28, 2007
    Though a little more exaggerated then Spa, this was a similar situation in practice. Ferrari fastest in 1st practice, Mclaren in 2nd practice, Ferrari in 3rd and the race. Go Kimi, (and Massa).
     
  7. Ambassiatore

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    #7 Ambassiatore, Sep 28, 2007
    ...damn I hate to be behind them...
     
  8. Duck_Hollywood

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    #8 Duck_Hollywood, Sep 28, 2007
    thought the Toyotas looked some what decent
     
  9. tifosi12

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    #9 tifosi12, Sep 28, 2007
    This is Toyota's track. Of course the cars will shine in practice.
     
  10. shahedc

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    #10 shahedc, Sep 28, 2007
    Trulli? TRULLI ???!!!

    How did he get up there?

    I was just reading this F1 article this week, where Trulli was expressing his opinion that the McLaren drivers should be kicked out. The article talked about how he was the "shining light" or something like that.

    And now he's in 4th place in Friday practice? Ahead of Kimi's 5th place??!!

    I don't expect him to be in the top 3 during Sat Qual or on the podium after the Sun race, but I am impressed by his results.

    I can see why he would want McLaren out.. he could've been in 2nd place right behind Massa, and then won the Japanese GP for Toyota! :D

    ~shahedc.
     
  11. tifosi12

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    #11 tifosi12, Sep 28, 2007
    This is Toyota's track. He'll be midfield to backmarker in the race again.
     
  12. shahedc

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    #12 shahedc, Sep 28, 2007
    Agreed. I'm betting that he'll be midfield to backmarker in this track on Race Day.

    ~shahedc
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  13. GoFerrari28

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    #13 GoFerrari28, Sep 28, 2007
    Last night when I was watching Practice 2 I noticed that Kimi's Ferrari seemed really nervous around the section between Dunlop Corner and Panasonic Corner and that it was bouncing off the kerbs pretty hard unlike the McLarens and a few other cars. Of course the entire course has been rebuilt by Toyota and most of the improvements are pretty new but are the kerbs really that high or was it just my imagination?
     
  14. Ambassiatore

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    #14 Ambassiatore, Sep 28, 2007
    ...I was worried about it too, it seems THOSE KERBS are high enough to upset our suspension...and give the low mech grip we have...we aint THAT bad...let´s keep the faith for now...

    FORZA FERRARI
     
  15. CRG125

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    #15 CRG125, Sep 28, 2007
    I know this has nothing to do with the practice times, but I just has express my feelings about Fuji. The track sucks a%$. Bring back Suzuka. I feel asleep 20 min into practice, very boring circuit. No place to overtake, to tight and short.
     
  16. tifosi12

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    #16 tifosi12, Sep 28, 2007
    Not gonna happen: Fuji has a multi year contract with Bernie.
     
  17. speedy_sam

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    #17 speedy_sam, Sep 28, 2007
    I thought one of the commentators said that they would alternate between Suzuka and Fuji. Maybe I am wrong.
     
  18. speedy_sam

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    #18 speedy_sam, Sep 28, 2007
    So what does everyone think about the track?

    My thoughts:
    + Lots of elevation changes
    + Variable weather
    +/- Shades of Bahrain in the mid section and Sepang in turn 1
    - No exciting corners
    - Last chicane a joke
    - No sense of rhythm
    - Too short
     
  19. maxorido

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    #19 maxorido, Sep 28, 2007
    No, you're 100% correct.
     
  20. maxorido

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    #20 maxorido, Sep 28, 2007
    Personally I think the track is ****. I've always thought that, ever since the track showed up on Gran Turismo 4 back in 04. It's just so awkward and uninspiring.
     
  21. classic308

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    #21 classic308, Sep 28, 2007
    +1 Its no Spa that's for sure..
     
  22. Senna1994

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    #22 Senna1994, Sep 28, 2007
    +100
     
  23. Remy Zero

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    #23 Remy Zero, Sep 28, 2007
    very true. in GT4, i always struggle in the last section of the circuit. i've preferred the Fuji back in the 80s and 90s. the 1st section of the track, it's really hard to find the setup, easy to understeer off the corners, then at the hairpin, it's easy to lockup under braking.

    but the drivers seem to think otherwise tho. most of them seem to like it.
     
  24. tifosi12

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    #24 tifosi12, Sep 29, 2007
    They are wrong. There are currently no plans/contracts to bring back F1 in Suzuka.
     
  25. Remy Zero

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    #25 Remy Zero, Sep 29, 2007
    i thought thats true? from what i read, it;ll be the 'Pacific GP' at Suzuka
     
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