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Sultan of Brunei's Car Collection

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  1. basman007

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    I hope so :)

    Thanks :)
     
  2. basman007

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    - Ferrari Venice & TR Spider update -



    Ferrari 456 Venice Spider - 9 pictures of the green car

    Ferrari 456 Venice Estate - 5 pictures of the silver car, 7 pictures of the green car

    Ferrari 456 Venice Sedan - 1 picture of the yellow car

    Ferrari Testarossa Spider - 4 pictures

    Ferrari 512 TR Spider - 5 pictures of the blue car, 2 pictures of the black car

    http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/6.html



    This is the information I've got on the 11 Brunei TR Spiders:

    FER TR SPYDER BP8899 EFF109
    FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 - Red/Black
    FER TR SPYDER BP8998 EFF111 - Anthracite/Black
    FER TR SPYDER BK75 EFF112 - White/Black
    FER TR SPYDER DPD EFF113 - Light Green/Light Green

    FER TR SPYDER BP8988 EFG086 - Anthracite/Black
    FER TR SPYDER DPD EFG087 - Silver/Red
    FER TR SPYDER BP8778 EFG088 - Purple/Black
    FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089
    FER TR SPYDER BN6326 EFG090 - Silver/Black
    FER TR SPYDER BN1779 EFG091 - Blue-Green/Black

    The first five start with EFF, while the other six start with EFG. FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 is the only one of those that I think is red + I've got pictures of a red Testarossa Spider. So maybe EFF stands for Testarossa Spider and EFG for 512TR Spider. If this assumption is true, then I can fill in the only blank spot with the blue 512TR that got pictured in Rome during Ferrari's 50th anniversary and in Singapore during Ferrari's 60th Anniversary:

    FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089 - Blue/Black - When in Rome, it was wearing the 'DPD' plates) - s/n #97310



    There are three TR Spiders pictured in the gallery:

    FER TR SPYDER BP8988 EFG086 - Anthracite/Black
    512 TR Spider, spotted in Hong Kong

    FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 - Red/Black
    Testarossa Spider, spotted in Singapore during the festivities for the Ferrari 60th Relay. It was wearing Hong Seh stickers, so I think it is owned by Hong Seh (Singapore's Ferrari Dealer).

    FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089 - Blue/Black
    512TR Spider, spotted in Singapore during the festivities for the Ferrari 60th Relay. It was wearing Hong Seh stickers, so I think it is owned by Hong Seh (Singapore's Ferrari Dealer). It was also photographed in Rome during Ferrari's 50th Anniversary. At that time it was wearing the 'DPD' plates. Serialnumber of this car is #97310.

    http://www.*************/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=104217&bottom=360#post371
     
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  3. furious_ferrari

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    Thank god for camera phones. It seems a lot easier to get pics of the Sultans collection.
     
  4. basman007

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    And the rest of the Ferrari update.
    http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/6.html



    + Ferrari 550 Spider - 2 pictures
    It would be nice if someone else could confirm this, but according to a source Pininfarina presented, in 1997, at the same time the Ferrari F50 Bolide was presented to the Brunei Royals, their plans for a Ferrari 550 Maranello Spider, Sedan and Estate version, just like the Venice project.
    At the time it was unknown wether this new project was given the go-ahead, but now we know that at least a start was made at the 550 Maranello Spider project, because a black Spider has been seen driving around Monaco.




    + Ferrari 288 GTO - 2 pictures
    The GTO photographed from above is #55671. It was first delivered to Ron Stratton in England who drove it back there from Maranello with a journalist riding shotgun to document what they were like to live with.
    COULD SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE ARTICLE?

    After a conversion by Pininfarina it appeared in Brunei as:
    FER F288 GTO BM9988 ZFFPA16B000055671
    Dark Slate with Red Stripe (instead of the standard black stripe). It has a black interior with red piping on the seats.
    It's hard to tell wether this is the same car that I've got allready a picture of in the gallery (the one next to the yellow Venice Estate).

    The red one in the glass house must be: FER F288 GTO BN1212 ZFFPA16B000056641:
    http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667124&first=true




    + Ferrari F40 - 3 pictures
    Two new pictures of the F40 that was for sale @ Talacrest. That is seriously a killer colour :D

    Is this an F40? Could it be the prototype that chilidog said was in the glass house?
    http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667158&first=true
    (save it and zoom in ;))(or am I starting to get cross eyed from looking at tiny pics :p?)

    Also, check out the picture of the four F40's in Brunei -> you can clearly see prince Hakim's batlogo embroired in the seats of the black F40 :)
    http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=450966&first=true




    + Ferrari F50 - 15 pictures
    Seen at the Coys auction, wearing British registration 'N637 HTE'.
    Spotted on the streets of Dublin, Ireland (now owned by Alan Hanly). With plates '206-PN-07'
    The story goes that there are 2 red ex-Brunei RHD F50's in the UK now, but I can't confirm this (yet).

    The drawing of the green Ferrari F50 on top of Pininfarina's roof was done by Pininfarina Senior Designer Maurizio Corbi, the same that did the drawing of the McLaren F1 LM. I believe this is one of the Pininfarina Brunei F50's, but don't have solid confirmation. Can someone confirm or deny this?

    Also, I added 4 pictures of the 2 Marconi F50's, that were stuck at Pininfarina for RHD conversion which was never performed, because of the Brunei crisis.

    Does anyone know if there are LHD F50's in the Brunei garages?




    + Ferrari 512TR - 11 pictures
    Sn/ #95660, now in British hands.




    + Ferrari 456GT Speciale - 1 picture
    This was one of Prince Jefri's Beverly Hills cars. This Ferrari 456 has a Mercedes-Benz gated 5-speed automatic transmission, and looks somewhat different than a regular Ferrari 456GT.




    + Ferrari F40 LM - 1 picture
    Ferrari F40 LM #88523 was sold new to the Brunei Royal Family in december 1990. It appears on the big list as follows:
    FER F40 LM KF7899 ZFFGX34X0L0088523
    I think this is the black F40 photographed in the glass house:
    http://www.*************/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667153&first=true

    Another F40 LM that has a link to Brunei is #92237:
    1991 - James McLean, Newport Beach, CA, USA
    1992/apr/14 - Talacrest Ltd., Egham, UK
    1992 - Hong Seh Motors ptl., Singapore for Sultan of Brunei
    1993/may/10 - Vintage Motorcar Co., USA via Talacrest
    1993/jun - $895k - EAS
    1993/sep - Art Sports, J
    1996/apr - $850k - Shin Takei, J
    I wonder if this car spent any time with members of the Royal Family, it could very wel be...



    http://www.*************/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=104217&bottom=360#post373
     
  5. afiqmeister

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    hmmm....so the f50 in singapore is no longer there.....singapore may be a small and sunny island but it sure has many of the ex brunei cars.....there are clk gtrs......merc 300sl amg gullwing.......merc landaulet.....and there is a rumoured that a czieta is at hong seh's second floor ?
     
  6. basman007

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    Wich Singapore F50 are you talking about?

    The Cizeta is still @ Hongh Seh if nothing has changed lately...
    btw their site is offline? or do they have a new url?
    http://www.hongseh.com.sg/main.html
     
  7. basman007

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  8. afiqmeister

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    well.....let me tell you a story......hong seh dealership is situated at jurong......a western part of singapore......i went there before for the ferrari 612 launch a few years back......there was a door which says " no entry for personel only"......then suddenly one of the ferrari mechanics open and enter the door......and he left it ajar.....what i saw was unbeleivable......a ferrari enzo......a couple of maseratis and some mystery cars......all of them were covered with silver coloured cloths......i was so shocked when suddenly the mechanics asked me to go away......maybe those secret cars were brunei cars......i don't know.....only the mechanics and god knows....haha.....from what i heard.....the brunei cars are at level 2......what i saw is at level 1....btw....what do you think did they do to the czieta ?.......those special cars were for sale....a couple of years back.....the ferrari f50.....ferrari berlenitta 550.....nazca c2...and the jaguar xj220.....i am not so sure about the colours though....i think the sultan send it here after his economy went down because of jefri.....

    ......oh btw.....hong seh's website is down i think....
     
  9. basman007

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    :eek: We really need some insiders @ Hong Seh and Auto Manufactur :p:p I am not certain what is at Hong Seh's 2nd floor. The ones that I am pretty certain about are the blue Cizeta, red TR Spider and blue 512TR Spider. The Nazca is said to be there and was still on their site 6 months ago (when I last checked), I also seem to recall an XJ220, but I don't know if this car had something to do with Brunei. I've talked to someone that saw the blue Cizeta (not in Singapore btw) and when he saw it it was still standard.

    It could be possible that those cars went to Hong Seh after or during the Brunei crisis, but it could also be possible that some cars were sent to Hongh Seh in the first place for some reason. I got this idea from the F40 LM that was bought by Hong Seh for Brunei. But really, we need insiders/spies to find this out :p:p:D
     
  10. afiqmeister

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    what about the cars that i saw.....what do you think ?.......i think we should send james bond there to spy....take some pics....specs and info about the cars....haha
     
  11. basman007

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    I can't tell you anything about those mystery cars, since they were covered :) As for the Enzo, isn't there one gentleman in Singapore who owns an Enzo, maybe it was his car?

    Can't you go to Hong Seh? To check out the cars there and take some pics of the showroom, maybe get a conversation going and find out some info, ask if you could maybe check out the Nazca, XJ220, TR Spiders, etc. because you're such a big fan?
     
  12. afiqmeister

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    i don't know about taking pics cos i think it is restricted over there......btw i am just 15 years old and curious about the brunei collection......maybe one day i would ask them......and yes the enzo is being own by a rich guy in singapore....
     
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  14. afiqmeister

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    thanks.....those pictures are wonderful......btw i am now tracking down an ex hong seh mechanic.....he used to work there.....but i do not know where is he.....maybe my dad can help me.....he used to work there in the late 1990's i think....the time when the sultan gave his cars to hong seh.....maybe he can give us some info....or even better....PICTURES !
     
  15. basman007

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    Here is yet another stunner from Aston's Special Projects Group:


    - Aston Martin Vantage Special Type I -

    The Aston Martin Vantage Special Type I was the first Special Series model. It fullfilled the request of Prince Jefri for a four door, 200 mph supercar.
    The Type I was based on the Vantage chassis. From the front and the back this car is unmistakebly a Vantage, but when you see it from the side you'll notice the extra two doors and the longer wheelbase.
    Like the other Special Series models the Type I was powered by the 600 BHP engine.


    Three Vantage Special Type I's were made by Aston's Special Projects Group in 1996:

    #70051 - Cannock Black/Black with reflective glass
    AST VANTAGE BP6633 SCFDAM2S0RBR70051

    #70053 - Titanium Silver/Grey with reflective glass
    AST VANTAGE BQ8118 SCFDAM254RBR70053

    #70088 - Special Red/Red+Black
    AST VANTAGE BP6699 SCFDAM2S4SBR70088



    Direct link to the 15 new images:
    http://www.*************/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=104217&bottom=390#post393

    Link to the entire Aston Martin page:
    http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/1.html
     
  16. basman007

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  19. basman007

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    Thanks :)

    No, I didn't shoot that F1. They were taken by quite alot of different people (that are probably on Fchat also).
     
  20. basman007

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    No-one knows anything about this F40?
     
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    Mercedes-Benz VIP Sprinter & Sports Coupe's Update


    Mercedes-Benz Sprinter AMG VIP - 5 pictures
    1 picture of the black one that was allready in the gallery for a long time. And 4 images of another, yellow, VIP Sprinter. 2 out of 3 VIP Sprinter's are now in the gallery.


    Mercedes-Benz SL600 AMG V12 - 4 pictures
    Two different SL600 AMG's, both equipped with a 450 BHP AMG engine and AMG bodypannels. The green one was for sale in NZ a couple months ago (it isn't listed anymore, so it could be sold).


    Mercedes-Benz SL320 Milia Miglia - 3 pictures
    This special edition SL320 was one of the UK based cars and was sold in 2001, it changed hands for the second time earlier this year (2007). It has special detailing to the dashboard and centre console and special wheels.


    Mercedes-Benz SL320 - 2 pictures

    Mercedes-Benz S600 AMG Coupe - 1 picture

    Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR SS - 1 picture

    Mercedes-Benz 300 SL AMG - 1 picture


    http://www.*************/gallery/129612/976/10.html



    Here are three pictures of another SL600 AMG, this time a yellow one. It's the same specification as the other Brunei SL's: RHD, painted AMG wheels and it has leather seats that I've only seen in Brunei cars before. I have a strong suspission that this car came from the Royal Collection, but I'm looking for someone who can confirm this with the ebay add these pictures came from. Anyone out there who remembers this car?
    http://www.*************/Pics?vpf3=y&gID=7&fID=134&tID=120354&mID=3291387&l=b
    http://www.*************/Pics?vpf3=y&gID=7&fID=134&tID=120354&mID=3291387&l=c
    http://www.*************/Pics?vpf3=y&gID=7&fID=134&tID=120354&mID=3291387&l=d



    Same post in the thread on SCN: http://www.*************/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=104217&bottom=420#post422
     
  22. black label

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    Basman,
    Re the yellow SL its hard to say because the yellow cars were Prince Baha's Cars but his all had Red interiors, but this could have been an early one or the red interior has been taken out.
    Doesn't really help.
     
  23. basman007

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    All the yellow cars were Prince Baha's? No exceptions?
     
  24. Bowers

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    Hello mates, late to join but wanted to start by commenting on this wonderful thread. Thank you all for sharing your information and pictures.

    I am curious about the F50’s.

    Chilidog’s list states 8:

    FER F50 BM18 ZFFTA46B000102813
    FER F50 KF98 ZFFT4B000102852
    FER F50 BP76 ZFFTA46B000102902
    FER F50 BN8787 ZFFTA46B000103033
    FER F50 BN3003 ZFFTA46B000103034
    FER F50 BP1789 ZFFTA46B000103047
    FER F50 BQ7436 ZFFPA46B000107500
    FER F50 BQ1110 ZFFTA46B000107545

    Marcel Massini says there was only 7:
    “Brunei post-production RHD F50s are: 107515, 107530, 107560 and 107575.
    Regular Brunei F50s are: 102852, 102902 and 103033. These last two were NOT converted to RHD.”

    A couple of things stand out. First of all Massini's #'s and Chilidogs #'s dont match. Next the “Regular Brunei F50s” if the S/N list states car #1 as 103097 then the first six, 102813 - 102852 - 102902 – 1013034 – 103033 - 103047, were received before they started counting? Then there’s the F50’s after number 349 #107240, that means that the last two were the only “post production cars” right?

    From the picture provided there were obviously silver, black, and at least one red. Can anyone confirm the colors? Any information at all about these masterful pieces of machinery would be greatly appreciated.
     
  25. Jet-X

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    The blue car was built for the Sultan - but was never delivered by Hong Seh from what I understand. It is for sale though, right hand drive. Still original, not molested like the two black cars. It was the second to last Cizeta to be delivered before the doors closed. It's also chassis #01.
     

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