THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG'S LIST What am I doing wrong? Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all. Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level? Here are my questions specifically: - Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms -What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings -Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)? - Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there? - Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out? - How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth. it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 432279810 THE ANSWER Dear Pers-431649184: I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it. Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful! So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you! So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage. Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout. By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation. With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know. John Terracciano | Sales Manager | Advertising.com 625 Broadway, 5th Floor, New York, NY 10012 Direct: 212-497-0084 | Fax: 212-780-9890
You got it right. All she wants is to spend someone's $$ and if she were so hot, she would already be gone.
LOL!!! That's fantastic. The financial linguistic integration...simply brilliant. I can't stand girls like that.
hahaha, i love how he puts it into business terms for her, i wonder how many congratulatory phone calls he's received from this?
Material possessions while nice and fun wont make you any happier. Some people just don't get it. Oh and those attractive girls in the singles bar are hookers.
"I'm tired of beating around the bush." I'm sure if she posted real photo's of herself on FCHAT along with a full PPI report including Compression Test results she'd a least get an offer of a test drive or two assuming she's as she describes herself. She might even find someone willing to buy her.
I LOL'd! I read an article in the Sunday TImes a while ago about a dating agency where all the men had to be millionaires to join. Obviously she hasn't heard of that... Edit: I just found said article here: http://millionairesclub123.com/style.html
John had a thoughtful point about appreciating versus depreciating assets and, as Fchat regulars know, depreciating assets are better rented, not purchased. But I also suspect John hit the nail on the head here and the girl has inflated ideas about her market value. $500K easily puts the buyer in the top 1% of the income market. Since this girl is selling herself on her looks and class, is this girl in the top 1% of those categories? Probably not; more likely she is in the top 10%, in which case her buyer market is just the $125K income level. Also, IMO there is a really heavy burden on the level of beauty required to make up for the crassness of her approach. Definitely need pics.
That guys response was PERFECT... I dont mind women who want to live a high quality of life but they need to understand they have to bring more to the table than looks.
Woman seem to be banking on plastic surgery that keeps you "young". The woman who are determined to look young through it ends up making them look like a plastic barbie doll. Not very attractive in my view. That TV show, the housewives of OC (or whatever it is called), is a perfect example.
I just find it funny how so many women simply "Wake up one morning" and decide that the world owes them a certain lifestyle and they will settle for nothing less..... Oddly, they are usually housekeepers.
AWESOME RESPONSE! Depreciating asset! LOL! Trick is to find a beautiful girl who knew you and accepted you BEFORE you had any $$$ (or doesn't know you have any). If she's willing to live in a hovel with you for love, then she's a keeper. This broad - forget it. Basically a high priced hooker and even the best hookers don't charge what she's looking for.