Automobiles are different things to different people. I'm sure you've seen pictures or have visited public and private collections. How many of those ever are driven? Do I think the Reventon is special. Yes,they are building 20. Odds are high most of us will never even see one in person.
so its more than i suggested then eg you think it isnt "just" a Murcielago with bodykit and trick dials ???
You'd be better off asking that question to someone who actually is on the list to get one. I drive a Gallardo.
You and I are in agreement about art collectors, it's nutty to pay that much for a painting but the fact remains that they can apparently afford it and it is a free market. A lot of priceless "fine art", I would not hang on my walls for free.
they havent responded on here you have. so im asking if YOU think its more than "a kitted up murcielago"
Difference is..there is only ONE Picasso like this one. That's it. There will never be another..ever. To own such a painting is quite a thing to have. The Lambo can be built at anytime by the manufacturer, even 30 years down the road..they could still build it and it would be an "original" car because it was done by the manufacturer. They say they are only going to build 20. I'll bet a few more get built. Money talks..just like the Enzo. Supposedly there are now 420 of these things running around.
I was gonna type out my lenghty opinion, but why, when Cartmangio did it so perfectly. Special points to pay close attention. He said "most" of the people are not in position. NOT ALL Special car for a special person, that why there is ONLY 20 If they have the money then let them enjoy it! There are plenty of people that make 1/4 of a mill a month. I would spend an entire months salary on a car in a heartbeat or 5 months salary on one car over time. Does that mean I have more money than sense. My collection of cars probally equal a yrs earnings, but I must have some sense or I wouldn't have the luxury of owning them! So let the guys out there that have the money (and are still generating that kind of monthly money) spend it as they please without someone sitting behind a keyboard saying that they have more money than sense!!!
Actually,that's not true. One of the people on the waiting list for one did post here several weeks ago. However, with your statement,is a Veyron nothing but an AudiTT with some bodywork and a bigger engine. I think there is so much a builder can do with a model and still keep true to the marque. Compare a 964 to a 997. A Countach to a Gallardo, etc. Is the Reventon worth $1.4m? Apparently it is or no one would've ordered them. If I am fortunate enough to see one or drive one I'll be in a much better position to give my opinion.
i meant this evening. how so ? a veyron isnt based on a TT a Reventon isnt just based on a Murcielago but it is in fact simply a Murcielago with a new bodykit. as such your analogy doesnt work 997 probably isnt the best one to use as from 996 onwards the 911 used a different shell - however all the 911's up to that point used variants of the same basic shell. besides your still missing the point - this isnt a new model hence my comment of "some ppl have more money than sense" fair enough if thats what you need. i dont - im capable of seeing that despite all the smoke and mirrors this is simply a lightly modified version of an existing car .
What is that you drive William? I know a number of people that can afford a car like the Reventon and none of them are clueless. Most of them are very driven and intelligent individuals that run large successful companies. I'll need to pick this discussion up another day. I have some reports that need reading tonight.
Actually one of the people that was offered one, posted here a few minutes ago. I have no intention of vilifying anyone who actually buys and enjoys one. Car collections are frequently a matter of personal taste that doesn't appeal to everyone. The issue here is with the COMPANY producing a "warmed over" line-extension and calling it special so they can shake down affluent buyers.
This isn't the first one to be sold. There was one that was 'flipped' a few weeks after the unveiling...For a nice profit too.
Plenty of examples of entertainment figures/pro athletes who blew massive fortunes on nose candy and sketchy investment schemes. I'm with tbakowsky on this. IMHO, there's an intrinsic worth to a unique, original Picasso that goes beyond modern made-to-be-collectible objects. Cars like the Miura, Ferrari Daytona Spyder and others seem to merit their heavy price tags for their craftsmanship, historic stature and rarity. If I had the cash, I'd have a hard time justifying the Reventon relative to other modern cars available. I think Lambo just wanted a million-dollar modern car to rival the Enzo. I don't blame the seller for trying to make a buck on the Reventon. I'm sure some buyer in the Middle East will write a check for it and park it somewhere.
Better get the "Mythbusters" on that one. Urban legend only, until they are actually delivered. Maybe "Buster" can take the first ride ;^O LOL Image Unavailable, Please Login
CRAFTSMANSHIP; what the hell are you talking about? None of them were considered high in craftsmanship. Craftsmanship denotes 'quality', which none of the aforementioned have. Exclusivity yes; but not quality.
Quality is a relative thing. If you compare the fit and finish of an original Miura or Daytona to a late model luxury car they will appear somewhat crude in detail. If you consider the manufacturing processes of the time the differences are easier to explain. Miura and Daytona are completely hand fabricated built in small numbers in relatively small factories. 100% human contact. That beautiful Miura body was hand formed out of flat aluminum sheets by skilled artisans. Modern cars are computer designed, stamped out, CNC machined, injection molded, robotically assembled in mass quantities with well defined QA systems in place. They might fit better but there's no soul!
I guess half of the Reventons will share this experience, since it's not better to drive than a normal LP640 but every mile you put onto it lowers it's value. I'm sure the people buying a Reventon own a normal Murci as well. Anyway, the car is never worth the money they want but as long as there are enough people who must have it, they will sell.
That is a point that is all too often taken for granted. I love the Veyron. If it were a man, I would probably be gay, but it has nothing on the Type 35 or Type 37. Similarly, while the modern supercars are absolutely amazing and I would be glad to own one, there is a clear distinction between modernity and classical.
The Picasso went for $100M+ because ol Pablo is triple stone cold dead and their aint no more and is widely regarded as a pinnacle of the medium! The Revention while being a cool car can still be made and most likely will be made past he first "exclusive 20" cars as Lambo has no trouble pimping it out a bit for some extra dough (Versae, Alpine edt... etc...). That is the difference, that said I like the Revention and if I had unlimited funds I would buy one but I wouldnt think it would hold value or appreciate like a Picasso. My 2 cents, Brad
