Crappy Replicas thread

ok, thisone actually had a Ferrari V8 in it
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the problem with the 360/430 models is that the diffuser/undertray sucks brilliantly but when you hit a bump like Andreas says, the car lifts and moves reducing the downforce.

360C on this site went into Phillip Island racetrack at 220 at turn one , hit a bump, the car slid slightly sideways losing downforce and this made the car even more sideways losing even more downforce until it all cumulated in a massive spin ... he fixed it by putting a wing on the back ... the big girl

 

Please, we're talking about a 15 year old car here, same vintage as a 348 or Mondial T - hardly modern. Not only that but the technology behind them is so agricultural compared to it's contemporary Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche.

First you said it was an RT/10 and now it's an ACR... *sigh*

 

.... we may also be talking to some 15 year old people based on some of the posts on this thread. Without any namecalling or hair pulling Im doubting very much that the cars listed in some people's garages are 1:1 scale (not talking about you BTW) ... and very much doubt that they have driven a car at 200mph.

 

I don't have anything great and haven't really done any magnificent driving either, I'm just a groupie.

 

Two FChatters in a 360 on the Nuerburgring approaching Schwedenkreuz, which is a long straight with a depression and a hilly rise at the end at the same time turning left. Car gets airborne, looses downforce and starts to fly and rotate killing both passengers on impact, disassembling into bits and pieces and fire.

360 going flat out through Madrid, hits a bump in a tunnel, looses downforce and can no longer make the turn and crashes into the tunnel wall.

Enzo in the US (Nevada? Arizona?) goes flat out, hits a bump, looses downforce, crashes violently. Passenger is lucky and escapes, Enzo is toast.

While not everbody's tea of cup aesthetically, big wings on the body IMHO are the better approach than downforce from underbody for road cars.

 

Definitely more my cup of tea. Here's some friend's 360 Challenges spinning out on our local track last week:
---> http://aussieexotics.com/forum/events-and-racing/big-kids-day-out-3-friday-21st-september-t210.0.html;msg6294#msg6294

 

Either way the man owned both a GTS, RT-10 and now is driving the ACR. Pretty much all of them are the same except one is topless and the one is special

Even if they are old they still aren't ordinary these days weither your driving a mondial(Which I don't even concider a true ferrari) Countach or an older 911, not everybody has them nor you don't see them on every street corner. Think of an old outdated fighter plane like the Phantom, F5 and such.

 

Let me guess Corvette engine?.

 

for the brain impaired, I said FERRARI engine ... man, no wonder people get exasperated with you ... how old are you and did you go to school ?

 

LOLLERCOASTER

 

To quote Darrly Kerrigan

"Ahh.......the serenity"

 

The only V8 engine I know of is the Corvette engine which is the greatest V8 ever made.

 

American V8s are absolute sh!te compared to Italian V8s, show me an Americam V8 of 4.3 litres that puts out anywhere near the HP the F430 does (unblown)

And Corvette V8s would still be in the dark ages if not for the Lotus input and are still rubbish compared to Ferrari engines

 

I disagree. It is a different concept: You have unlimited capacity because fuel is cheap and space is plenty. That's why American engines are big. A Euro or Japanese engine has to be small to fit the small vehicle, to be taxed less (Italy) and to be fuel efficient due to the higher gas prices. Technically an Italian V8 is superior to a Vette V8, but that's not the whole picture: The Vette V8 is dirt cheap to build and maintain and has massive torque.

If you live in a country with low gas prices and have a vehicle with plenty of engine compartment space, an American big block is a good choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I got both: A Ferrari V8 and a Corvette V8. Both aren't producing much hp anymore (about 250 vs 300 and that's being optimistic), but for the Italian one I'm paying through the nose to keep it going.

 

In ZR-1 LT5 (L o T u S) configuration .... maybe.

 

I disagree with that statement.

The small block chevy V8 has to be the most bullet proof engine ever built in automotive history. Look at the LS7 engine, yeah it maybe a 7.0liter engine but its reliable as a GM 3.8, and pushes out more hp and torque than any Lambo V-10 or ferrari V-8. The base C6 is just as fast if not faster than the Ferrari F430. Remember the days of the ZR-1? GM perfermed a test that ran the hell out of the LT5 for 24hours straight and with over 400hp you would think that the engine would blow outin a couple of hours right? wrong it ran like a champ and performed like one to dispite being torchered for a day.

Sure it may not sound as good a ferrari V-8 but id still take any Small block chevy engine over any other V-8 on the planet because it offers great performance, reliablitly and virtisitlitly without costing alot. Thats why that engine has been in production since the early 60's and keeps getting better and better each year.

 

GM owned Lotus at the time like Lamborghini was owned by dodge back when the diablo was released so technically the RT-10 was a cuson of the Diablo.

Speaking of Corvette engines.

How about a Lamborghini replica powered by a Chevy small block?.
http://lamborghinireplica.com/ForSale/DSCF3894.JPG

 

There you go

 

Yeah well meatloaf will fill your belly just as much as fillet mignon - but it still sucks.

 

this wasn't a debate about whether one was expensive to build or not, it was about the fact that American engines are grossly overweight for the piddly little power they give.


Horsepower and torque per litre destroys the American V8 or show me one that beats the Italians ?

 

well if you start to compare engine sizes your argument is absolutely baseless because even at 400hp in a 5.7 litre engine it is producing nowhere near the output of a 4.3 litre 430 engine and the Ferrari engine is more stressed and will last longer.

That 5.7l engine has only been in production since the 60s because Gm can get away with selling it

 

You're still not getting it:

You're turning this into a "whose penis is bigger" competition. Real life isn't like that. In real life all that matters are track times. You can achieve good ones with either engine. I couldn't care less what the hp/litre ratio is as long as I can drive faster around the track than the next guy. And if I can do that saving a buck on maintenance then all the more power to the engine.

American horse power in an American chassis is mostly a lost case. But American horsepower in a finely tuned chassis, now you're talking. What has that got to do with this thread? Well tune into here:
http://race-car-replicas.com/

 

No, the Ferrari engine will not last longer. You've got to have the biggest case of Ferrari denail/worship syndrom I've ever seen.