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What's a % or $ Value Drop After 3500 Miles?

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  1. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

    Aug 13, 2006
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    I've been pondering this idea and I can't come to any conclusion. If you were to buy an exotic and put around 3000 miles on it, how much value will be dropped from the total price? Perhaps trying to sell the same car in that same year or in six months. Also would it matter if the car is already used or brand new? My question is for all exotics, not necessary Ferrari but excluding the big toys (Veyron, Enzo, Zonda, etc) knowing how sensitive they are to millage.

    Is there a Formula, perhaps % point, or just figurative speaking cash value.
     
  2. m_later

    m_later Karting

    Mar 22, 2007
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    I can't imagine there is any forumula to it. There are a lot of factors into the price of a car and too many to really come up with a formula. Only safe approach is to assume it'll take a big hit. Then if it doesn't take that much of a hit then you're better off than you expected :) Also note that in most states you'll lose the sales tax that you pay as well.
     
  3. Vintage V12

    Vintage V12 Formula 3

    Aug 11, 2004
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    What a stupid question. Its a car. Drive it . You could be dead next week.
     
  4. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

    Aug 13, 2006
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    Lol, no god forbid. I'm the type that drives these cars. I'm just wondering if it's worth taking an exotic to Gumball 3000(3000miles) or one of these rallies like Cannonball NY to Cali and selling it afterwards.

    I'm wondering if the hit will be too harsh.
     
  5. Vintage V12

    Vintage V12 Formula 3

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    Only 1 way to find out. Have the time of your life. go for it.
     
  6. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

    Nov 1, 2003
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    Depends on the car itself, how well you buy the car, market conditions when you sell it, etc. There is no formula. Let me give you an example. I bought a Stradale a year and a half ago for $170k with 7k miles. Sold it five months after that with 8k+ miles for $176k. It has 10k miles on it today and is likely worth $180k+. Market conditions change. All this being said ... if you use it in the Cannonball Run or a like event ... mileage as a depreciating factor will be the least of your concerns! :)
     
  7. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

    Aug 13, 2006
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    Hmmm, very interesting.
     
  8. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    I think it should be the other way around, the higher the mileage the more it cost,
    you know that car had made it that far and it has been tested and pass the high mileage test.
     
  9. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

    Aug 13, 2006
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    That's how it is back home in Middle East. No one really buys cars depending on their millage.
     
  10. Air_Cooled_Nut

    Air_Cooled_Nut Formula Junior

    Nov 25, 2004
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    Completely the wrong questions to ask oneself about a toy/hobby/obsession.
     
  11. staylor

    staylor Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2006
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    Not always just as easy as that mate ;)
     
  12. Glassman

    Glassman F1 World Champ
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    What an excellant idea!!! I say buy the car, drive the hell out of it for a few months and sell it for more than you paid for it. I'm looking for a car that has been driven "hard" like god and enzo intended. I think this type of ownership should increase the value of the car over some other cat that has been pampered. Also smoke in the car, that way other men understand that the car has been "pre-marked" also inceasing the value.
     
  13. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    What I have noticed with F-cars is no matter what you will be competing with very low mile cars when it comes time to sell i.e. garage queens. If you are trying to sell privately most of the offers will be wholesale.(not unless you've got a very desirable car and you'd be selling it through the dealer anyway) Another trick people will use is they'll ask you what MSRP was on the car and offer close to that even though pricing should be based off of a higher current market value. So the morale of the story is you might as well put some miles on the car so that at least you've enjoyed it because you probably won't get top dollar anyway considering what you'll be up against. Make sense?
     
  14. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

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    Perfect scenes.
     
  15. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

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    It's going to be driven on some of the fine autobahns around the world and best gas. Also less chance of going to red line when you are driving on the highway in 6th gear. Whereas a normal buyer will take that poor car out every weekend and rape the mother out of it and will do all of that in City. I'll be breaking in the car perfect for the next owner if not more.
     
  16. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie
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    No matter how hard I try to comprehend I don't understand people who are looking to spend 6 figures on a car and then care about resale value if they "heaven forbid" drive the car.

    If you care about resale value, buy a Honda.

    If you're looking for the experience of a lifetime buy a Ferrari.
     
  17. ken qv

    ken qv Formula 3

    Oct 25, 2006
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    It's not the three thousand miles that's going to hurt the re-sale value
    It's everyone knowing how those miles were put on...ie Gumball.
     
  18. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, it would matter if the car is used or new. Take an F40 with 200 miles on it and add 3000, and you're probably down $100K.

    Take one of those 300-mile 328s at $90K, drive it 3000 miles and voila: you have another of the many '89 328s with ~4000 miles on it. Probably $10K depreciation.

    Buy a 355 with 21,000 miles on it, run it up to 24,000 miles, sell it smart. Probably zero odometer-related cost.

    But I've got to agree with MVP. If you're worried about a Ferrari losing value due to mileage, then you bought the wrong one. Either get a museum piece and store it -- which is fine. Or get a road car and use it. I suppose I bought 'below my means', so while I love my 328 it isn't a significant part of my financial picture. It doesn't matter if it goes down $5K or up $10K, except for FChat/bar talk purposes. The current plan is to use it, and when the engine gives out have it rebuilt. In the meantime, the 328 is the newest Ferrari I really like, so any future purchases would be vintage/classic anyway.
     
  19. M3-ADDICT

    M3-ADDICT Formula Junior

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    Cool thoughts guys. If Ill be lucky, I can come up with the 65K entrance fee for Gumball, none the less actually buy an exotic. It was just a thought, and everyone made some good points.
     
  20. Steve711

    Steve711 Karting

    Oct 9, 2007
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    Walk into a ferrari dealer selling the exact model/color you want to buy and imagine two identical ferrari's for sale. The only difference, one has 1500 miles and the other has 4500 miles.

    The answer to your question is how much more would YOU pay for the low mileage one.
     
  21. Bavarian Motorist

    Bavarian Motorist Formula Junior

    Apr 10, 2007
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    No one can answer the question for ALL exotics. All exotics are different and range from Lotuses to Veyrons. Even Ferraris and Lamborghinis have much different depreciation rates.


    Narrow your question...
     

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