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BMW being investigated !! MAJOR BREAKING NEWS ***SPOILER***

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  1. 62 250 GTO

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    I was making the case against them and I know the cars run very hot and it was very hot in Brazil today.
     
  2. 62 250 GTO

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    I just listed the ammo, what increase in performance there is I can't say, I doubt it's much.
     
  3. Lukas

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    If FIA would punish the drivers and DQ them, then wouldn't people raise their eyebrows since FIA just took away WCC points when McLaren "cheated"? I just can't see FIA do this...it would make no sence.
     
  4. lucky_13_2002

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    Nothing can surprise me anymore, as far as FIA goes. However I think we all know who the real champions are and I don't care what they say. As I said before I just can't wait for next season.
    Kimi was the best driver this season and Ferrari are the best team. Period.
     
  5. T308

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    BTW, that was a Brazilian news report from Elpais.com
     
  6. 62 250 GTO

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    Raikkonen, officially champion
    The FIA is not sanctioned nor disqualifies any of the three pilots involved in the controversial fuel

    The International Automobile Federation (FIA) officially proclaimed champion of the World Kimi Raikkonen after rejecting the reasons they have begun an investigation for alleged irregularities in the fuel and Williams-Toyota BMW Sauber have used in the Brazilian Grand Prix. La FIA ha decidido no sancionar ni descalificar a ninguno de los tres pilotos implicados, Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica y Nick Heidfeld, por lo que Lewis Hamilton no podrá beneficiarse de los puntos que le hubieran colocado líder en la clasificación final, segun ha informado la Cadena SER. The FIA has decided not to penalize or disqualify any of the three pilots involved, Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld, so Lewis Hamilton may not benefit from the points that would have placed leader in the finish, according reported by the Cadena SER.

    The FIA has summoned the representatives of the two teams to check irregularities in the use of fuel. El motivo de la investigación residía en la temperatura del combustible de los cuatro coches tras la carrera, que presumiblemente estaría por debajo del límite de diez grados por debajo de la temperatura ambiente. The reason for the investigation was the temperature of the fuel of the four cars after the race, which presumably would be below the limit of 10 degrees below ambient temperature. La baja temperatura, según ha explicado Fernando Alonso en la Cadena SER , favorece el rendimiento del motor de los monoplazas al 'refrescar' las altas temperaturas que se alcanzan en carrera. The low temperature, as explained Fernando Alonso in the Cadena SER, enhances engine performance to the cars' refresh 'the high temperatures that are reached in the race.

    Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica y Nick Heidfeld acabaron por delante del inglés en cuarta, quinta y sexta posición, respectivamente, y tras unos momentos en los que han podido ser descalificados, finalmente concluyen el Mundial 2007 en las posiciones originales. Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld finished ahead of English in fourth, fifth and sixth place, respectively, and after a few moments to which they have been disqualified, finally conclude the World Cup 2007 in the original positions. El piloto de McLaren, Lewis Hamilton, hubiera sido el más beneficiado. The McLaren driver, Lewis Hamilton, it would have been benefited the most. Hamilton ascendería al cuarto lugar sumaría cinco puntos, tres más de los que logró y que le harían tener 112, dos más que Raikkonen, vencedor en Interlagos, una cifra que le hubiera convertido en el nuevo campeón del mundo de la Fórmula Uno. Hamilton would amount to Fourthly add five points, three more than those who succeeded him, and that would have 112, two more than Raikkonen, winner at Interlagos, a figure that would have become the new world champion in Formula One.
     
  7. Ferrari Rare Parts

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    well then if the temp stuff is correct then:

    cars that arrived 4,5,6 were battling between each other for positions which do not affect MacLaren as MacLaren team points are not valued for spy story. So this does not affect MacLaren!

    Alonso was Third so cars 4,5,6 are not faster than MacLaren as Alonso had a very good margin!


    Hamilton was getting always closer to car 6 so no advantage for car 6 .


    Simple !!!
     
  8. nejcdolinsek

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    So it seems legit?
     
  9. 62 250 GTO

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    Just because Lewis was closing the gap isn't enough. The issue is, they gained performance. That would mean Lewis should have caught them quicker. It's all up to the powers that be now.
     
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  11. Chaos

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    not simple.

    Hamilton could have gotten closer to or overtaken cars 5 and 6.
     
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    Hope so!
     
  13. Ferrari Rare Parts

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    Chaos always going against me in all race threads!

    You must be a Ron dennis!
     
  14. Armenhaz

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    He (Lewis) was nowhere near the neighborhood to pass those guys. He had to get around Massa first (being a lap down on the Ferrari) and then get a crack at the Williams and BMW's.
    So Kimi is WORLD CHAMPION, and THAT IS IT!!!
     
  15. Chaos

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    LOL

    ive only ever spoken to you in 2 threads period.
    the first was to ask you to change your thread title because it was a race spoiler and then theres this one where i simply corrected you :p

    im torn here - i freely admit im a LH fan but im also an SF fan too.
    i do however feel this is an issue that needs to be looked at.
    if this chilled fuel did give a performance advantage then something needs to be done - quite what though i dont know.
     
  16. Ferrari Rare Parts

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    Yeah Thats correct +++++1000
     
  17. lucky_13_2002

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    Not just you.
    He is out to show us. Show us the WAY and the LIGHT. The RD way and the (blinding) Silver light.
     
  18. Chaos

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    yes but its not about LH's performance - the point is those guys might not have been so far ahead but for this possible unfair advantage
     
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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ticker/hub/motorsport/index.html?item=1354968

    Raikkonen title confirmed
    Eurosport | Sun, Oct 21, 23:40
    Kimi Raikkonen's world championship title for Ferrari is confirmed as there will be no penalty for BMW Sauber and Williams for fuel irregularities, meaning McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton cannot overtake him on points


    Still waiting on the "Big Boys" to confirm this.
     
  20. T308

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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/21102007/58/raikkonen-title-confirmed.html

    Raikkonen title confirmed
    Eurosport - Mon, 22 Oct 00:12:00 2007
    Kimi Raikkonen's world championship title for Ferrari has been confirmed as there will be no penalty for BMW Sauber and Williams for fuel irregularities.

    More StoriesRaikkonen wins race and title
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    That means McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton, who finished in seventh, cannot overtake the Finn on points.

    Had Williams's Nico Rosberg, fourth in the race, and BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld behind him been disqualified for fuel temperature irregularities, the British rookie, only 22, would have been awarded the drivers' championship.

    All three cars had cooler fuel temperatures than officially permitted, meaning that they had an unfair advantage in terms of how much they could take on and how quickly it could be transferred.

    After a meeting between race stewards and representatives from the offending teams however it was decided that no sanctions would be taken against the drivers' places in the finishing order.

    Hamilton suffered a poor start to the race then had gearbox problems on lap eight that left him adrift. He fought back valiantly but could not make it as far as sixth, which would have given him the title.

    Raikkonen beat Hamilton and his Spanish team-mate Fernando Alonso by a solitary point overall after winning the race at Interlagos. Alonso ended in third.
     
  21. lucky_13_2002

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    Like the break advantage McCHeaters benefited from the whole season? ;)
     
  22. nejcdolinsek

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  23. Chaos

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    LOL

    no i simply corrected him on something - YOU are a different matter, YOU constanty spout sh*t and make things up.
    now be a good little troll and crawl back under your rock.
     
  24. Chaos

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    thats brilliant - LOL :D
     
  25. T308

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    and quick!
     

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