Show me the things I made up and the sh#t I spouted. Put your money where your mouth is or shut it. After all I wasn't the one coming out with the nonsense of Stepneygate being Ferrari's fault and some other far fetched lunacy coming from you.
Your bias is quite obvious. Louis Hamilton, nor Fernando Alonso, nor that arrogant POS Ron Dennis deserve any form of championship in 2007. The car used Ferrari brakes, and if Hamilton's car was performing as well as Alonso's during the race today, the BMW's could have used rocket fuel yet Louis would have passed them both. He couldn't for two reasons, he lost his mental focus, and his car had electrical problems.
Man, "don't be a troll and clear your eyes from the red mist". You do realize that you are talking to a thick headed welsh who still can not realize he lives in a British colony, let alone expect him to have a wider point of view, right?
thats already been done by several ppl several times. what i said was correct under the terms of the rules, oh and i never said it was morally right - just legally you know i think i preferred it when you werent going to speak to me again. still thats just another example of you "spouting sh*t" i guess.
OK, I'm off to sleep. Its going to either be a great or a horrible morning. Goodnight, cross your fingers!
lets not go down this road again. if we did we would have to ask why werent toyota penalised for having the entire dossier from another team a few yrs ago why werent ferrari penalised for having an illegal car earlier this season why werent renault fined/lose points for having 3 cd's worth of data from another team this season (bit more than 750 pages methinks) why why why ...................... and yes i am biased - ive stated from the outset im an LH fan. i also stated i dont know how id deal with this rule infraction nor do i know how i want it dealt with. atm all we can say is that the rules have been broken and that its likely a definite performance advantage was gained through it.
Lol is quite a sick expression,what is it mean: laugh out loud? I really hate it ,it seems nerdish! But I'm not refering it to you ,its just that alot of people write it on the threads and i find it childish! I also used it a couple of times myself Anyway getting back to answering you LH seems to be a brilliant driver,Alonso is very good to even though his character needs alot of work.Thats what made this Race so good it was the best Race in years! Battling out The Divers Championship on the last Race.The Odds Kimi would of won were far compaired to either Alonso or Hamilton. Then look at it this way this year Kimi won more first places also even excluding this race! Kimi started bad in the begining of the season (thats after Australia) and got better towards the end! LH got worse towards the end of season, and even stuffed up with the pressure! When he had to reset the controls of the F1 gearbox control unit.Immagine he could not of reset it ,he would of been out of the race! I wonder in that case if cars 4,5,6 would of got fuel temp investigations???? when LH comes to Ferrari I will probably say Forza Hamilton ,but until then I wouldn't care as its against my religion: Ferrari I know that Massa is with Ferrari until 2010 and hopefully will win it next year,Kimi should also be in Ferrari for years to come. Does anyone know if Hakkien will return to F1 or Shumy??
I don't remember which of the three muscheteers you were, but neither you nor one of your buddies actually has ever come with hrd evidence=quotes for your accusations. And you are absolutely right. I should not be bothered by you, but your posts are out of this world. I was only one of at least three people who told you to take your crap elsewhere and let us be, but you don't get a hint. Do you?
Did you guys realize that Ferrari would have been 2007 WCC even if McLaren kept their points!!!it would have been Ferrari 204 vs McLaren 203pts!!!(15 pts penalty in Hungary) Forza Ferrari!!!
I didn't know that welsh people are a race by itself. You are grasping for straws man. I worked and partied with a couple of welsh girls. Really cool chicks. You can only imagine how surprised I was to find out they were same race as me. OOOOOOHHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOSHHHHH!
A month or so ago I gave you the FIA phone number and address and I advised you to call mad Max and tell him that Ferrari was in breach of the rules. I see by your response that you haven't got an answer yet. Until you do, you really should drop the subject because all what you're doing is confirming to everyone here that you still lack common sense. In case you lost the address here it is again: FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE DE L'AUTOMOBILE 8, Place de la Concorde 75008 Paris France Telephone: +33 1 43 12 44 55 Facsimile: +33 1 43 12 44 66 Services Administratifs / Administration : 2, Chemin de Blandonnet 1215 Genève 15 Suisse / Switzerland Telephone: +41 22 544 44 00 Facsimile: +41 22 544 44 50 (Sport) Facsimile: +41 22 544 45 50 (Tourisme et Automobile)
yeah it means Laugh Out Loud - basically its used to indicate either you find something funny or to show your not being serious. basically it helps to provide some context to a statement - not a bad idea especially as the ppl on internet forums are form varied places it was definelty a good thing for the sport everything coming down to the last race 2 of which (someone else said 3) including today were gifted to him by the somewhat unlucky FM cant fault that he had a blip yes, but seemed to get past it. and id like to think that yes the fuel would be investigated regardless passion yes, not quite a religion though +1 id like to see FM win it (assuming LH and JB dont) anythings possible Lauda returned after a few yrs out and still did great things
Rodger Penske and Mark Donahue packed their fuel tanks in dry ice back in the 70's Can Am days. It was not against the rules until the next event. They talk about it Mark's book, "The Unfair Advantage". They did this right in front of everyone. In the freaking heat of Brazil, how could you cool fuel without the FIA noticing? Now this appears to be BBC Faux news.
Yes we did. And we have been going BANANAS over it for the last few hours. well, except some here, who still can't soak it in. it has something to do with the usual fare they get at the mind readers I think or something like that. They knew all about it but I didn't get the British humor.
Yawn. wasnt just me who said it though was it - several of the most respected ppl in this section of the forum also said it. oh and i didnt bring the subject back up - id let it go a long time ago but luckymoron brought it up AGAIN as is his wont to do when confronted by an arguement he cant win. bottom line as i said to ron - lets not go down this road again.
Thanks for the update calculations ,I 'm to busy celebrating ! Its great to see justice after the spy story not taking drivers points! When Kimi was receiving first place today ,he was blanked on his face :He could not believe he also was Drivers Champion. Massa very humble said he could of won today ,but he won as a team making Kimi and Ferrari take lead. Massa was very important today also keeping Alonso in 3rd place. Forza Massa ! forza Kimi ! Forza Ferrari ! Forza all you Ferrari owners ! and best of all Forza all the people who want a Ferrari and do not own one !
no, im intelligent and i know what the word means. you seemingly do not. from dictionary.com (ive only put down the pertinent points) race –noun 1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity. 2. a population so related. 4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race. 5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race. 6. the human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race. 9. any group, class, or kind, esp. of persons: Journalists are an interesting race. —Synonyms 1. tribe, clan, family, stock, line, breed. Race, people, nation are terms for a large body of persons who may be thought of as a unit because of common characteristics. In the traditional biological and anthropological systems of classification race refers to a group of persons who share such genetically transmitted traits as skin color, hair texture, and eye shape or color: the white race; the yellow race. In reference to classifying the human species, race is now under dispute among modern biologists and anthropologists. Some feel that the term has no biological validity; others use it to specify only a partially isolated reproductive population whose members share a considerable degree of genetic similarity. In certain broader or less technical senses race is sometimes used interchangeably with people. People refers to a body of persons united usually by common interests, ideals, or culture but sometimes also by a common history, language, or ethnic character: We are one people; the peoples of the world; the Swedish people. Nation refers to a body of persons living under an organized government or rule, occupying a defined area, and acting as a unit in matters of peace and war: the English nation.
3 things right here in your post. 1. what is the argument? And do I really need to win anything, when you are being laughed at? 2. who are the most respected people here that shared you outlandish ..................(I really don't know what to call them-your posts) 3. did you just directly call me a >moron<, mister-rules-are-rules, 'cause it is against the rules. I won't even point it out to the mods as you are entertaining. Like having a free freak show. Besides being called a moron by someone like you in most cultures would be considered a compliment
As to your questions, the Ferrari was not deemed illegal until the rules were clarified of which the question came about when McLaren got ahold of the Ferrari dossier. If I remember correctly, more than one team interpreted the rules as did Ferrari. It was never proven that Toyota or Renault had any information from another team that would have given them advantage that McLaren received from the Ferrari dossier. McLaren attorneys tried to make an issue of Renault before the FIA, and they were shot down for a lack of information. Wheras the information against McLaren was quite damning. Also, I believe precedent would have penalized LH for his wet tyre infraction this weekend, yet he was not. Right now, it is pretty damn obvious that the powers that be wanted to see a Brit win the championship no matter how what where or when. No matter what your bias, the simple truth is that neither McLaren or its drivers deserved to win any championship this year. In fact, as a fan of Bruce McLaren, I think it totally pathetic that a moron like Ron Dennis would allow for such a historically admirable name to be dragged through the mud.
The SPEED Report just announced that the FIA has said there will be NO penalty for BMW and Williams! Kimi is the Champion!
In reality, those guys (BMW and Williams) were so far ahead not because they were faster, rather becuase Lewis's debacle at the start of the race, followed by his gearbox problems, followed by his 3 stop strategy (devised to save the race for him). He really had the WDC, but threw it away because of his lack of experience and hot headedness both in China and Brazil. The intense desire to win and prove to the world that he deserves the champioship (rather than acknowledging that he had a great car) cost him the WDC!!! He will learn.