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  1. Mr Montana

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    Hi all,

    Can Cams from, lets say 76 to 81 308, be mix and match?

    What i'm getting at is if i got a late 308 (81), that runs good and i decided to change her to carbs, can i change out those cams to carb cams (76-79)?

    Purist please don't hate me. :)





    The Carb 308 i was looking at sold and this 81 is pretty good and i can get her cheap.:)
     
  2. BigTex

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    No.

    75-77 is one DOT NON CAT cam profile.
    78-79 is the carbed CAT profile
    1980 is the start of fuel injection systems.

    Sorry.

    Early ones are the ones to use.....$1K each.
     
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    Welcome.

    The injected to Weber 308 conversion CAN be done, but the parts cost is staggering.

    There's a thread here on a Mondial owner that did it.
     
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    Absolutely! The 78-79 carb cams aren't any better than what you already have I don't think...you want 76-77 cams.

    Another option is Web cam can weld and regrind your cores to the carb spec, P6 spec or something in between.
     
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    To quantify, $3K to convert a 2v injected to Webers; can use the 2v carb manifold and 4 new 40 DCNF-12 so it's simpler than the qv. Takes a good weekend to do, pretty much bolt-on. Works best if you do the exhaust as well.
    LOTS of threads on carbs, exhausts and cams.
    Have fun!
     
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    Thank you, good Doctor.......dat's da man, right there!
     
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    I'm having my cams re-worked again by Web cam with probably more duration if they have to re-weld them . .. I was running .406 lift on intakes and .350 on exhaust and she idled fine but I do have aftermarket EFI systetm. I'm hoping polishing and coating the valve shims will stop the excessive wear I had. I'm sure you'd be fine with the mild P6 grind :).

    Right now I have the stock cams back in my car and the compression ratio is up near 12:1. I just realized this when I did some calc's for some pistons I'm ordering for another motor . .. thought it was down near 11. At first I thought it was a bit of a dog after running around with the bigger cams for a year but after a little tuning I'm really impressed with how she goes with the stock cams . .. think it will pull a 328 (yeah . .. that's right . .. bring it on!!! :)). Something else that really livened my car up incredibly was more ignition advance/hotter spark/MSD. It's nice not being all nervous at a light with a merge lane and a minivan next to you ;).


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    Thank you for the replys gentlemen.

    So Webcam can take the cams from the 81 and regrind them to P6 specs?

    Would i have to supply them with the #'s for the P6? Intake and Exaust?
     
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    Yes, they can regrind to pretty much any spec you please. They should have the p6 specs on file, but they also have a LOT of other specs on file. If you tell them what you are building, they are happy to recomend a grind that will work well for you.
     
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    Excellent.

    Thank you again Mark.
     
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    P6 is the Lemans spec, it'd be a little lumpy for street use, IMO.
    Great at 8K RPM only........

    But as you see, we have some maniac engine builders in here! LOL!

    I'm more of a 'turn the key and drive it like you stole it' type of owner.......;)
     
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    Web just did a set for me this week - talk to Laurie, she's done lots of Ferrari cams
     
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    Thank you Russ. I have been reading your threads too. Very educational. :)
     
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    My '75 GT4 got stuck with the wrong intake cams - I have '79 cams. I've always kind of had in the back of my mind that I would have them reground to at least stock, but really, why would I stop there? Can you give me an idea what webcams charges to grind a cam? (Just curious, I'll probably not do this for a while, like maybe next winter.)
     
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    I called yesterday to ask for a price and the girl told me $1400. To buy a set of used early carbs (76-77) i'm assuming are 3x the price?
     
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    Figure on $50 - $60 per lobe to weld and re-grind, IIRC
     
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    Just caught wind of this thread.

    You're telling me that this Webcam Co. can ad to your exiting cams, and then grind them to give you the specs for a early carb 308 (76-77)??

    Double WOW! :eek:
     
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    Yes they can....but that will probably bugger up your CIS. If you talk to Web, they can probably tell you wath duration they sell the porsche guys with CIS.
     
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    I think its $2500ish last I heard, if you can find them.
     
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    I have a set of 2V manifolds and carbs( carbs are new but have been laying around for some time )and a set of genuine factory P6 cams if anyone is interested .By the way I am looking for a drysump block if anyone can help ?
     

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