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And it isn't what it is going to be either. I would say the ACC is worse than it was 2-3 years ago. It is better than it was 10 years ago. While the game was boring until the end, it is performance in the clutch that counts very often. So Alabama got run over by Arkansas until the end of the game, does that make Alabama worse? Seems to me the consensus is that is what made Alabama good this year? The same good team that lost to a down FSU team.

A person's opinion is often slanted by their hopes and aspirations. A person could say that both Florida and Kentucky are way overrated because their defenses allowed too much scoring when they played. You just never know how the teams will play out until they play. Last year everyone was in love with Troy whatever his name is and OSU. The argument was whether USC or Michigan should play them for the NC since nobody else was even 'close'. Then Florida got in the game and stomped OSU. I would guess many here would have probably picked Florida last year due to the conference affiliation.

Miami, when we were in the old Big East, was put down for having a weak conference. Yet we usually won against our non conference opponents in big games (other than the limited scholarship years). The computers are supposed to sort these things out to get the best matchups, although it does not always work out that way. Just because a conference appears to be 'down' does not mean that there cannot be a championship caliber team in that conference. What makes the SEC special (compared to other conferences)???

 

7 of the Top 25 are SEC teams more than half of the teams that make up the SEC are TOP 25 Teams. And 24 National Championships 12 of which are from "choke, cough, aggghhh" ALABAMA. I guess even their leather helmet ones count.

 

But Princeton, Yale, and Notre Dame all have more than 'Bama. So they must be better schools? The Big Ten has 27 national championships, including six of their ten schools, so they must be better than the SEC? If a weekly top 25 poll determines it, that can (and does) change throughout the season. So what again makes the SEC the best???

 

Delusional...Although both could definitely beat south Carolina!

BT

 

Can I help it if the ACC's best is only equal to the SEC's worst?

 

Why should BC not be ranked higher than LSU? Because the ACC sucks, consistently. They have 1 win and 8 losses in BCS bowl games. Keep in mind there have been 9 seasons of BCS bowls so they've NEVER had another ACC team get an at-large bid. ****ing pathetic. Not only that, that lone win was FSU over VT. VT was a future ACC team, but played in the Big East that year (1999). What a joke. HERE'S HOPING BOBBY BOWDEN BLOWS A KNEE AND FINALLY GIVES UP HIS HEAD COACHING SPOT, LOL!

 

How about their BCS bowl game record? They have the highest winning percentage among all BCS conferences (ACC is last). They have the most BCS championships as well (Tennessee in 1998, LSU in 2003, and Florida in 2006). Only the Big XII can compare with two, OU and Texas. The ACC has only one (FSU win over VT), as well as the Big East (Miami), and Big Ten (OSU). The SEC also currently has the best out of conference record this season (as well as last) and has the most teams ranked in the top 25.

P.S. The SEC also has the most players in the NFL (Big Ten 2nd) and when averaged for number of teams per conference (SEC has 12 vs Big Ten with 11), SEC still comes out ahead at about 22 players from each team (although not distributed evenly of course).

P.P.S. ACC sucks

 

Yeah!!! What he said.

 

Uh oh,

FSU's AD just resigned.

It doesn't look good in Tally Town

BC, VT, and Maryland jet to come...

Dale

 

He's hittin the sauce. I got accused of wishing injury on a player when I didn't. So you get accused of mentioning Bama probably because I brought up the 12 National Championships you guys won.

 

Its gonna be a great day of college football tomorrow. Go Trojans!

Random upset of the day...Penn St. over Ohio State. I just want USC to climb a bit.

 

I'm gonna watch the PSU vs Ohio state game today. I think its a home game for Jo Pa. I'll be routing for the Nittany Lions.

 

OH well.....Their's always next yea.

 

PSU got easily beat. The Vols won in OT. They blew a 21 point lead at the half and didn't score again until OT.

 

Cal lost, again. 3 weeks straight now. At one point, they were one play away of becoming the #1 team in the nation and now they have lost all hope at any meaningful bowl game.

God I love it when Cal loses. I can't stand that team. I grew up in the East Bay Area and had to deal with a bunch of UC Berkeley chest thumpers. Vendiction is great when it is handed to them by my Alma Mater.

 

You didn't, Sparta did...

He was claiming SEC superiority based on Alabama's contribution to the 24 national titles (even when they wore leather helmets).
The SEC looked pretty bad yesterday. Kentucky losing to unranked Sylvester Croom's team.... Florida losing to Georgia (nice defense )
... South Carolina losing to unranked Tennessee. Alot of the SEC fans still just saying "We are the best, just ask us." No real reason, other than the polls. So if another conference has the samer (or higher) percentage of their teams in the top 25 poll they would be equal (or better) than the SEC??? I just really want to know the criteria that you go by. To have BCS bowl records as the only measuring stick is weak as indicative of the entire conference. You only put your best team in the BCS bowl(s). A poor conference with a few good teams can show well in BCS bowl records. I would thin you should at least count the wins (and losses) from Miami as a credit to the ACC if you are counting the BCS records, since you are inlcuding our failures (and not victories), as reasons the ACC sucks. I am glad to give credit where it is due.

If you look at last year's college thread I was the first to point out (with about 5-6 weeks left in the regular season) that Florida is a strong school. I am just not convinced that the SEC is more than a very competitive conference with a hig rate of parity. Similar to the ACC, but with a better top team at this point.

I think the overall bowl record is a pretty good indicator. Last year the SEC did well, going 6-3 in their bowl games. The ACC went 4-4. The Big East, in a rare year of better than average teams, went 5-0. Based on this thread Florida should absolutely kill Miami next year. Anyone willing to offer to eat their words if Miami wins? Granted, Florida has not beaten us since my freshman year at Miami (1985) so they may be due, but I thin we can beat them (hoping we use a new QB next year). I'll gladly post that Florida is the better team without making excuses if we lose, can an SEC fan make the same offer?


BT

 

Don't fell bad. On the other hand, your USC team is following my Canes team in the win / loss streak, only three years delayed. If so, you should lose only your bowl game this year, then three regular season games, and the bowl game next year. Then the bad year....

BT

 

So Vanderbilt is better than SC??? I would bet BC could beat at least 9 out of the 12 SEC teams this year. The other 3 could go either way.

The SEC has 3 quality out of conference games, and they have only won one of them beating VT, while Alabama lost to FSU, and Tennessee lost to California. Don't see the greatness there, sorry.
BT

 

I have no problem with Alabama stomping us that year. The Penn State loss in 86 and the OSU loss in 2002 were by far the worst I ahve felt as a fan. We had truly great teams those years, and just blew it. The 1992 deal was more like last year with OSU thinking they were the best but not getting ready for the big game.
We have done okay since I have been an alumni, winning four of our five championships in the last 20 years. No leather helmets in our game pictures, so we don't have the history that 'Bama (or princeton) does.

BT

 

Correct.

And not so...

From here:

http://www.secsports.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=2&url_article_id=6307&change_well_id=2

The Southeastern Conference had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences.

The Atlantic Coast Conference was second with 238 players, followed by the Big Ten with 234 players, Pac-10 with 183 players, Big 12 with 176 players and the Big East with 84 players.

Among SEC schools, Georgia was first with 37 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Tennessee with 36, LSU with 33, Florida with 31 and Auburn with 30. Alabama had 21 players on NFL rosters, while South Carolina had 19, Ole Miss and Mississippi State had 17 each, Arkansas had 12, Kentucky six and Vanderbilt with five.

The SEC had five of its schools with 30-or-more-players on NFL rosters. No other conference had two.

Nationally, Miami (Fla.) leads with 46 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Ohio State with 44, Florida State with 41, Tennessee with 36 and Georgia with 35.

The lists do not include players who were not on opening day rosters and since been activated.

So the SEC leads, but the ACC is second. And Miami is the leading school....

BT

 

Wow, it is difficult to keep up with the all SEC posters here, being all by myself....

BT