More Old Photos

...attributed to The Pampas Bull.......or maybe a photo caption of him in action, IIRC.....

 

"WOW! That is an incredible picture!"
je dirais même plus.
ex-tra-or-di-nai-re photo.

 

Fantastic! Such a great photo of the 412P, and Jim that's probably one of the best action photos of P4/5 I've seen yet! I'm still waiting for you to blow the dust off the old shoebox squirreled away at your parents house and have you scan some of the race and paddock photos you took during your European travels in the '60s. Keep'em coming guys.

Gary

 

There were 4 375 Indy cars built. If I remember correctly off the top of my head, 3 were DNQ at Indy 1952, and one of them had mag wheels...

 

THIS IS NOW BY FAR MY FAVORITE WALLPAPER OH MAN ITS THE BEST!!!!



thanks

doug hunt

 

No doubt. That is a cool pic.

But the older one shot from a drainage site. WOW! DOUBLE WOW! Imagine some dude standing in the sewer with an old time 35 ml camera. You get one shot. None of this digital stuff. One shot. You hear the car coming. I imagine that it was down shifting as it went through town. All the spectators are drunk on their ass (After all, it is Italy.) And you get only one shot. So you hold it. You hold it. And you hold it. Then at the last possible second before you are sure that you are going to die, you take the picture.

Unfrecking believable.

Dale

 

Great photo, but I like the "fisheye" one a few posts ago better....

 

+1

 

Did this photo come from "Track Record: The Motor Sport Photography of Maurice Rowe"? Anyone know if his photos are available for sale anywhere?

Thanks,
Al

 

Yes, this photo is in Maurice's book, but it was also published in 'Evo' magazine, a couple of years back, in an article entitled 'Life through the Lens' - which includes lots of other superb period photos.

PM me for Maurice's contact details. Yes, he does sell his photos, sometimes.

 

The personality of the old photos is appealing to me because you actually see the drivers, there is little or no advertising on the cars, photographers had unbelievable access.
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David,

Outstanding photograph. Let me take a guess, Le Mans 1963, Willy Mairesse behind the wheel he shared with John Surtees in Ferrari 250P chassis 0812. Unfortunately this car was involved in an accident which caused substantial fire damage.

Gramps

 

+1.

But the real reason is the romance of the time, ie. the automotive industry was still developing and thus every photo is telling an interesting story about the history of the automotive. This no longer occurs because we've solved it, and now all race series are completely artificial to "make" them interesting. But back then companies were making their mark, etc. On top of that sponsorship has ruined the sport (actually all sports) ... but that is a different subject really.

Also like it or not colour photographs pale in comparison to black and white, for example ... so much more drama:
Pete
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Agree 1000% The same for movies, IMO....

 

Very true. Take Fellini's 8 1/2 for example. I, for one, simply can't imagine watching that gorgeous movie in color.

As for Rowe's shot of 0848 in Targa Florio '67: Incredible!

 

Don't agree completely. Each has its place and can convey different things in different ways. Color can often distract the viewer from the overall composition of the image. But color can also add drama and emphasis that B&W would not. That said, B&W is a wonderful medium and, to me, very difficult to do properly and therefore, far more satisfying when it goes right.

Cheers,
Kurt O.

 

As this image is obviously proving very popular, I've uploaded my slightly larger original scan of it to Image Shack:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3350/p40848220targaflorio196yb1.jpg

Please remember this image is copyright © Maurice Rowe.

 

Not sure about it being Le Mans - the numbers (style) look different to the #23 that raced (unless it was during practice)

Jeremy

 

N°23 is Ludovico SCARFIOTTI during Sebring 12 hours 1964. Co-driver was Nino VACCARELLA.

 

Maybe further back than I thought. I had cause to dig out that Evo magazine article again, to get Maurice Rowe's contact details - from an email I had attached to it. Unfortunately, I haven't got the complete magazine, just the pages with the Maurice Rowe article, which someone had kindly torn out of the magazine and given me. There aren't any dates or issue #'s on any of the pages, but I suspect it must have been from either late 2001, or early 2002. Does anybody have a complete copy of of that Evo magazine ?

As you can see, I had also remembered the title of the Evo article slightly incorrectly.
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Easy question! The answer is:
in those days tele-lenses were not very common. They took normal 28mm or 80 mm lenses as there was no protection or barrier for those photographers so they could stand veeeeery close to the cars. Then the film material in those days was not as sensitive as it is today. Now we have 400 or 800 up to 1200 ASA/ISO material. In those days the b&w material was up to only 100 ASA/ISO. Today the b&w material is based on color crystals which was unknown in the 50ies/60ies and so it need much different chemicals. Also the chemicals for b&w development were not as "harsh" as they are today. All this affected the quality and creative style of the photographers from that period. Then -who needs film-material anymore? Everything today is bits & bytes. I had a chat with Bernard Cahier, one of the major snappers in those days, about all this. He said watching all this photomen today, all equipped with their massive tele-lenses and cameras with high-speed motor-drive doesn`t mean anything for him. I can`t agree more - and I was a photographer by myself!

Ciao!
Walter

 

Hi everybody. It's the first time I post a message in this chat. I'm born in Le Mans and, of course I'm a 24 Hours fan. But I appreciate sportscar racing in general. I'm very impressed by the quality of the photos in this forum (a special thank to David !). David posted the best photos of Le Mans 70 scrutineering I have never seen (it's just an example).
I posted 3 photos of Ferrari Daytona during the Le Mans test days in 1972. Someone knows the chassis numbers ?
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I'm sorry, it was Le Mans test day 1973 ! I apologize for this mistake : I posted the text without verifying it...Hope my english is not too bad !

 

fantastic photos! thanks for posting. keep them coming

 

your English is great and the pictures are better!