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Discussion in '206/246' started by sowest, Nov 1, 2007.

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  1. sowest

    sowest Formula Junior

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    #1 sowest, Nov 1, 2007
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    I have a 246 rear caliper apart and the main body of the adjuster mechanism that is inside the piston is broken. I do have an incomplete adjuster from a 308. As you can see from the picture, it is different and the inside of the piston is machined differently. I have talked to the usual sources and the response has been that rebuilt calipers are available with a good core in return. I have yet to find someone that has individual parts that they are willing to sell.

    I am posting here in hope that someone may have parts left over from a past project that they might be willing to sell.

    Thanks.
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  2. TonyL

    TonyL F1 Rookie

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  3. champtc

    champtc Formula Junior

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    sort of a different response but there was a thread here about fitting willwood brakes ( no modifying needed except widening the holes on the willwood caliper) onto a 246 ...looked like a cheap fix to me...
     
  4. John Corbani

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    Porsche 914 used same ATE brakes. See what you can find there. Lots more sources to work from including junk yards.
    John
     
  5. sowest

    sowest Formula Junior

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    Thanks for your responses.

    TonyL: My understanding is that the new stainless piston is the piston without the adjuster mechanism. The piston that I have is useable. It is the intricate assembly inside that is broken.

    champtc: Other calipers are certainly an option, but at this point I hope to be able to fix the relatively minor problem with the original brakes.

    John: I do know about the Porsche connection. I remember looking into this some time ago and I thought that only the 914-6 had the incorporated handbrake. The regular 914 had a "normal" caliper with handbrake shoes inside the rotor. I never followed through with a visit to a Porsche shop to verify this. It may be that 914-6 calipers would be as rare as 246 calipers. I think that although the individual parts may not interchange, a complete 308 piston and adjuster assembly can replace the original in the 246. Right now, I don't have a complete unit of either, but I am awaiting a couple of promising call-backs.

    Thanks all!
     
  6. ENZOSON

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    What is the year of your Dino? I just ran into the same issue on my '71 (S/N 01296). The rear handbrake mech was not working. Decided to rebuild the brakes.

    I expected to find a different mechanism, but it was the same as the one you showed. I could not even remove it. Here is a good link on how to rebuild the later model caliper

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    I decided to replace the calipers with rebuilt ones from the E series ( much simpler mechanism). Required rerouting of brake lines near the caliper (from the grake hose to the caliper). Alos the hand brake mechanism is upsidedown but no problems getting the handbrake cable there. Got mine from GT parts. If you have the same problem, it might be worth upgrading to the later model caliper since parts are available.

    Hope this helps

    Pietro
     
  7. 4redno

    4redno Formula 3

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    I repaired my "L" series handbrake mechanism earlier this year with new boden cables. It was quite easy and only required a feeler gauge to set the clearances of the handbrake pads. Do later cars have different brakes?

    ...Keith
     
  8. ENZOSON

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    Yes - early cars have girling (sp) brakes which I think have seprate hand brake calipers. Later ones have ATE brakes (with HB mechanism built in). But as I have found, I think there are 2 versions of the HB mechanism on the ATE brakes.

    Pietro
     
  9. Finitele

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    Don't you have to drill out the rear caliper adjusters?
     
  10. sowest

    sowest Formula Junior

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    Pietro: The car is a '72 (0364). It does have the later calipers with the handbrake operating lever on the top. My workshop manual shows that cars from 01118 to 02130 have a very similar caliper except the handbrake operating lever is on the bottom. I am assuming that the cars prior to 01118 had the Girling setup with a conventional caliper and a separate, small, mechanical caliper for the handbrake like the 206 cars have. The caliper that I am trying to repair looks,externally, just like all the 308 calipers. The thing that is giving me trouble is that the piston adjuster assembly is different. I am pretty confident that a complete 308 piston and adjuster assembly will work in the 246 calipers.

    Finding 308 parts should be a little easier. I did look at a Chilton manual and it does appear that both the 914 and 914-6 had these calipers, so that might be useful.

    I did buy a pair of calipers on e-Bay. The bodies look different, but I am hoping that I can use the piston assemblies. I am hoping to see them in a few days.

    Finitele: The calipers disassemble in a pretty normal fashion. The only thing that might need drilling is the small "freeze plug" that covers the snap ring that has to be removed to withdraw the handbrake operating lever. I drill a small hole in the plug and screw in a self-tapping screw to push out the plug.
     
  11. ferrari dino

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    I have a set of used left and right rear calipers that came of a 1974 Euro GTS.
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  12. sowest

    sowest Formula Junior

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    ferrari dino:

    Thanks very much for your reply. I just got the calipers that I bought on e-Bay and the pistons look like they will solve my problem. They are the later "308" style, but I am quite sure that the whole piston and adjuster assembly will be a direct replacement for the earlier "246" style.

    Again, thanks.
     

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