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  1. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    $62 isn't exactly a "budget buster".
     
  2. Chaos

    Chaos Formula 3

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    maybe not, but it is 4 and a half times the price though Tim.
     
  3. 2NA

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    Understood.
     
  4. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Tim,

    You have posted an image that depicts a man that is in a tricky situation. I would suggest that at the very moment that the image was captured the Matador realized that what was happening was not part of his original plan, nor was it a good thing. In other words he undoubtedly realized that he had comitted a faux pas. The Matador's unfortunate disposition mirrors the embarrassing position in which some people at Santa Agata currently find themselves in. Id like to suggest that all is not well at the works, and sleepless nights must be a thing that some have come to know.

    When an exclusive automobile is unveiled, there are no guarantees that it will be a hit. It could also be a flop. Id like to suggest that the latter is clearly the case here, for innumerable reasons...

    Joe
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  5. raymondQV

    raymondQV F1 Rookie

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    I think it will be a flop because Lamborghini owners are mainly self made men, this means they know what it means to earn money and therefore they don't throw it away for a ridicolous overpriced body kit.
    Second, look at al the SE version Lambo brought during the last 20 years, almost none sold completely, the SE30 was produced over 3 years, the 6.0 SE they hardly sold the planned 40 units (40 at the same price, not 20 for 1,5million).

    The Gallardo SE sold only because the package was cheaper than ordering the goodies one by one.

    The Nera, did it exist except in brochures and a few cars at dealers?


    Let's be honest, the Lambo community doesn't have so many guys spending ridicolous amount of money on cars.
    Most members are solid men with a balanced good/price relation feeling, although they love lambo they would first buy a Veyron than this 2F2F body ****, simply because they get more for the money.
     
  6. wbaeumer

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    Of course you are right! But if we all would refer to that we can close the entire forum here!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  7. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Thats a very good point!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  8. Detour_racing

    Detour_racing Formula Junior

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    Good point. I totally agree with you guys. I would never even consider buying one but that goes without saying.
     
  9. Innotech

    Innotech Formula Junior

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    if I had the amount required to buy one of these I would definitely buy one. But Id also buy a Bristol Fighter S.
     
  10. Miura Jota

    Miura Jota F1 Rookie

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    Understatement of the year
    is "JUST" another LP640 ? which by the way is under rated


    About the price:
    Only 20 guys will buy IT and they don't mind ...So why should we?

    We should praise a company which is bold enough to create a car this OUTRAGEOUS (as Lambo should be)
     
  11. Chaos

    Chaos Formula 3

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    sounds about right

    by whom ?
    always seems to get good reviews here (despite it being too heavy and out of date)

    because its ridiculous - IT isnt a new car, its a mild rehash of an existing model

    how is anything about this car (except the price) outrageous ?
    this is a company who have brought us some superb designs.
    Miura - a car so amazing a new word was created for it "Supercar"
    Countach - a design that stopped you in your tracks when 1st shown 35+ yrs ago and still does today


    and here we are today and the best they can manage is to graft a bodykit onto there very good but somewhat mechanically outdated flagship model and try and sell it as a whole new car for 4 times the price.
     
  12. 2NA

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  13. resa_071

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    +1
     
  14. Ragin Bull

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    No; I haven't driven one yet, and if Jeremy Clarkson doesn't like a car he will not hold back, he could provide as much entertainment slamming a car as he can proping it, so this good entertainment theory is just that.....a theory, and now that you mention it, I did hear somewhere that there are other people that do write ups and tests on cars as well, who knew.....So this journalist wasn't impressed with the Reventon??? So what??? I am sure you will find more than a few people who are not impressed, I can name 3 people on this thread alone who are not impressed (can you guess who 1 of the 3 is???). It doesn't take away from what these 20 lucky people are going to have, the most extreme Lamborghini built to date. For someone to say that others are "stupid" for buying one, well that is just wrong. And if you don't think that it will hold it's value, well only time will tell.
     
  15. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Face it Ragin Bull: The OVERWHELMING majority think the car's price is ridiculous, and by itself the bodywork's styling is a joke... INCLUDING a few who purchased one and are now getting out fast, after careful consideration. I know this first-hand because I have been offered their cars to sell at a loss. Thats a fact. Docs on file.

    From the standpoint of universal appeal and overwhelming desirability that exclusive manufacturters like Lamborghini strive for when they launch a special car, this project is an unmitigated disaster.

    I wouldnt be so fast as to refer to the hapless 20 as "lucky".... give it a little time.

    I understand that Clarkson's review of the Reventon will be a two-hour special Pay-Per-View event :)

    BTW, I AM in fact impressed by the Reventon. By the fact that they could charge as much for it, and by the fact that the project even got the green light. Now thats impressive...


    Joe
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  16. flaviaman

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    First off let me state than I have NOT been a Lamborghini fan since the cars of the 60's and early70's, and yes I have driven a Diablo, Gallardo, Merci etc....

    Secondly I will say that when I saw this on the front cover of a main stream car mag a month or so ago I paid almost no attention except to think "another gawdawful looking Lambo for the ultra rich gold chain set".

    While visiting the factory last week one of these pulled up out front and the guide was kind enough to let me poke around it...do I think it is beautiful? No, but then I think Ferrari has not produced a good looking car since the 355 / 456. Do I think it is interesting? Absolutely....the car has huge presence in person and for many that is what a new generation Lambo is all about....The way light plays off the surfaces is quite interesting, it is the most interesting (note, not beautiful) automotive design I've seen in many years.

    Lambo has received a huge amount of publicity for these 18 cars, of which I've been told all are sold. No doubt it will help sell many more "regular" Lambos. I've been in the high-line car business all my life, people who buy this car really do not care about value for money, or about resale.

    Just my .02 cents.
     
  17. Ragin Bull

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    Like I said......time will tell.

    Unmitigated disaster??? I would only think so if I took what everyone says on here as Gospel.

    I have ordered the PPV as well as "the making of" : )


    At least it impressed you in some way ; )
     
  18. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Tru Dat.

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  19. Five

    Five Formula Junior

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    One is one. A couple is two. "A few" is generally three or more. Some people use it for two but "couple" is usually used for two.

    So, at least 3 Reventon owners have approached you to broker cars they don't have yet?

    Wow. There are only 20 cars and 15% or more have already approached you (of all people) to sell theirs.

    Another "Joe Sackey classic".
     
  20. Brangeta

    Brangeta Formula 3

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    Seems to me, that if Lamborghini has already sold all 20, then they have succeeded with the Reventon. They made their money, whether their fanbase likes it or not.
     
  21. 2NA

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    Still waiting for confirmation of even one in private hands.
     
  22. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    There are others on this forum (Kane00, 2NA and JTSE30 among them) who have actually seen the correspondence documenting that there are 3 Reventon owners who want out, and wish to sell their ownership in the car, even before it has been delivered. That speaks volumes. One of them will sell it at a loss of about $250,000. Yes 15% want out. Thats a fact, whatever you take it to mean. Deal with it.

    It is worth noting that they are now contractually obligated to take the car having already tied themselves to the contract with a substantial deposit. Also worth noting is that the terms of their proposed sale request that the potential buyer execute the transaction upon delivery at Sant Agata.

    These group of cars have been offered to multiple brokers, myself included. The principal broker who has been approached by the owners of the cars approached me to offer these cars (with specific production numbers and estimated delivery dates) to some of my collector clients. I have declined to do so as I already know the opinion of several of my collector clients about this car. It is not a positive one.

    Clearly you havent a clue what youre talking about - as usual. Surely you dont think Id come on here and make suggestions without having documentary proof to back it up? Just one look at your post record will assure anyone that you have a rather pathetic personal problem with me specifically (hmmm, I wonder what that could be??) and in fact your typically useless post is simply an affront against me particularly as your "of all people" comment clearly outlines. Luckily, Im rather thick-skinned and I expect aimless morons to pop up from time-to-time and serve as a reminder that I am making an impact somewhere. Do yourself a favor and revert from your redundant armchair expert status as you are begining to ascribe to the position of village idiot as it relates to your personal hatred of someone you have had no interaction with or dont even know. You have no inside knowlege of what is happening here, and no personal involvement. You are merely guessing and doubting.

    As for your well thought-out (boy, you must have a LOT of time on your hands to devote to thinking about my activities. LOL) "Another Joe Sackey Classic" cliche, I rather like it and think I should adopt it for my business. Thanks for thinking of that for me.

    Joe
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    "Another Joe Sackey Classic"
     
  23. Napolis

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    Interesting stuff.

    Best
     
  24. Brangeta

    Brangeta Formula 3

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    I'm going to have to agree with Joe on this one...
     
  25. ApexOversteer

    ApexOversteer F1 Veteran

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    It's too bad. The Reventon is gorgeous and the dashboard is about the coolest thing I've ever seen behind a steering wheel. It's finally a car that lives up to the visual 'punch in the face' of the Miura and Countach before it. It's finally an extreme Lamborghini. It's a shame that the company ruined this car the moment they put the window sticker on it...
     

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