f40 differences

Jeffrey,

You sir have spoken most wisely...

Joe
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Not the one in which I operate, but Im always open-minded

Joe
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indeed i am not.
but then i never claimed to be a Marcel Massini either - all i actually said was that you dont need to buy/own a car to know about them, a fact thats clearly gone way beyond your head.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

very good alex, one could almost say you scored a point with that shot.

why is driveability a factor on a trailer queen
i mean had any of the amazing '92 cars you inspected done more than a handful of miles

things are different in the uk - over here believe it or not we actually use cars for driving !!!!!

thats the arguement of a man with a lost cause if ever i saw one

oh damn and after ive crafted a really asinine response too.

 

and therein lies the difference between you and some of our less enlightened brethren.

ive also heard a wicked rumour that you actually drive your cars too

 

Ooops. The proverbial cat is out of the bag...

Joe
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Gotta agree there....

You have to remember these are not Honda Accords. Who cares if the fit and finish is not perfect? They are race cars for the street basically.

Ever look closely at most real race cars, like an American Le Mans series car or WRC car? I have seen a few, they are so well enginered. Yet the fit and finish is just okay. The purpose is performance, not tiny panel gaps.

I myself, find the green glue on the carbon fiber floorboards cool for example, but I'm sure Consumer Reports would say that it is not the greatest thing. But, who cares!

 

Dear Comrades,

With regard to F-40 and which year is the best.

Both 410SA and I have 1992 models with the upgraded conbooberator valves and which I understand none of the older cars have. I don't know where these valves are located but I've got 'em and so has 410SA.

With kind regards,

512 Tea Are

 

Dear Graham,

I have it on good authority that by the time the 1992 cars came along, production line workers were bored of the F40, and a typical Italian Union strike ensued (which as we all know is a matter thats impossible to resolve). Accordingly, Polytechnic School graduates were drafted in to assemble the cars, and the results speak for themselves... Clearly, they couldnt tell a horse's arse from an F40's front end.

Joe
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To be scrupulously accurate, plexi sliding windows were exclusive to the first 20 odd cars. Glass wind up windows were plentifully available thereafter, possibly starting from about s/n 77181, the 21st car built. The plexi windows were available upon request throughout the life of the F40 and the highest s/n I have on record with them is # 94030 delivered April 1992.

 

Humm, so any Euro buyer could have requested sliding wondows at anytime? I had no idea it was that widespread choice wise. I for one love the sliding windows. They look cool and save weight. Thanks for the info!

 

Andrew,

Thanks for that info. I should point out if I may that Ferrari historian Keith Bluemel did some digging and saw fit to declare in his 'Original Ferrari V8' book that : "the first 50 had plexiglass sliding windows as on this example...." (he is referring to the infamous UK car, E274BGT).
Personally I welcome your recieved wisdom that in fact just the first 20 cars had the plexi-windows with an open mind, especially considering that we have learned that more than one established Ferrari historian is being shown in recent times to have espoused information that is not always correct a significant percentage of the time!

Either way its a rare appointment for European F40s. No USA spec car had them fitted when built.

Joe
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The US spec cars were not allowed to order them....they still aren't. Hence why no US spec CS or Scud has them.

I've seen quite a few Euro spec cars with them. I for one love them, they add to the race car aspect!

 

This is really an interesting thread...and i would like also to contribute here.

In my file i have recorded that until serial number 77088 ,the doors where fitted with the sliding lexan windows.
That means ,the first 17 cars included the prototype's had the sliding windows.
Of course,more cars later received this option...

Also started from serial number 77181 ,the rear fog light was fitted in the rear bumper
(before it was in the grill).

And during the production of the F40 ,many changes/updates where included in the assembly...like a new electronic control for ventilation fan speed,modificated front and rear disc brakes,updated IHI Turbochargers...

hope it helps a little..
regards
ivo

 

Interesting info, thanks !

 

Is this pertaining to LM's and LM GTE's????

I never heard of "regular" F40's getting any upgrades to those items, unless maybe it was just a matter of different part numbers.

 

Well as a past and future F40 owner, (yes I am back in the market), I cannot say that one year is better than another.

IMHO, the cars are not of the highest build quality, the fit and finish ranges from bad to less than bad. I think that is the appeal.

There is no significant differences between a '90 to '92, you are buying a handbuilt car and it just depends who was working that week...

You just need to look at each car individually...

I think I am qualified to post on this thread, but maybe not...!

 

Chris, glad you are returning to the club. Are you thinking stock, LM, or modified?

Why do I have feeling you are going to say LM???

 

I would love to say LM, but it will be a street car, I will do most of the mods I did to my first F40, I was happy with that car and I know Wes has really enjoyed it.

I think I will try to use a few more "true" LM pieces, I never had the LM hood and that always bothered me...

I finally sold my Hatteras, so I don't have that draining my wallet anymore.

I would prefer an F40 with 15,000 miles or so

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Just wondering why you chose that milage.

 

Excellent contribution Ivo.

I agree that the European F40 was definately an evolutionary car as production went along.

However, by the time the USA F40 came along in 1990, the recieved wisdom in ideal specification was already in place. Also, because of the USA's DOT & EPA requirements, the Type Approval gained for the USA cars in the Homologation process meant that producton was fairly standardized for the entire limited run of 211 cars and they are near-identical save for a few small features discussed over in the USA F40 thread. After all, they all had to conform to the the original mandate set forth when the car was approved for production in 1990.

Joe
www.joesackey.com

 

I typically drive my F40 about 4-5,000 miles a year, so no advantage to me to pay for an ultra low mileage F40....

I was never one to just sit in the garage and just look at the car, I prefered to drive it and bring it home with a few dead bugs on the hood...

 

Nice to see you looking for one again Chris, you and the F40 were a good match !

You've probably seen the 13k mile care for sale on FML ?

 

Indeed you are!