Your right Ron and one must also remember that Mike is fitter than any driver on the grid today. When I was 38 I was firefighting as good or better than most guys in their 20s. Age means nothing if you can get er done
The thing that is not being taken into account with this age business is IMO is this: The older you get ,yes you can keep yourself super fit but you cant recover from strains and injury's as quick as someone in there twentys. But the main thing is you tend to value your life more, ie wife, kids commitments My dad was a great racer, holding records at are local track, I asked him why he didnt keep pushing it he said the younger guy's coming along were fearless and didnt have kids like me on the way, just my 2 pence worth.
Yes. Testing is certainly not the same a driving for two hours in an F1 race. Takes more stamina and you can easily lose your concerntration. Younger drivers definitely have an advantage IMVHO. As much as I would enjou seeing what Schumi can do today I don't believe it would be a wise decision for him nor for his family.
It amazes me how many of you guys think 38 is old. I will put my money on Mike against any driver in equal cars right now while he is at the ripe old age of 38. Equal cars and he wins 7 times out of 10 hands down. Professional hockey is a brutal sport and Gordie Howe played into his 50s.
I agree! Schumi can come back right now and smoke anyone on the track including Hami and "big head" Alonso. The only reason why Schumi did not win his last year was because the engine failure in his car, if that had not happened he would have won. That's why, I think Schumi did not want to go out like that and I'm holding out some hope that he may return.
You can't blame an entire season on one engine failure, other cars failed to finish that year to, boosting MS up in many races, if they hadn't failed, he would have had even less points.
the penultimate race actually someone do the math. Schumi was leading when the engine went to flames. If Schumi had won that race and Fred was 2nd. the next race, Schumi fin 4th, and Fred 3rd(?). would Schumi have won the WDC that time?
Have not done the math, Grand Prix Date Winning Driver Team Laps Time Bahrain 12/03/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 57 1:29:46.205 Malaysian 19/03/2006 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 56 1:30:40.529 Australian 02/04/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 57 1:34:27.870 San Marino 23/04/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 62 1:31:06.486 European 07/05/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 60 1:35:58.765 Spanish 14/05/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 66 1:26:21.759 Monaco 28/05/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 78 1:43:43.116 British 11/06/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 60 1:25:51.927 Canadian 25/06/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 70 1:34:37.308 United States 02/07/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 73 1:34:35.199 French 16/07/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 70 1:32:07.803 German 30/07/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 67 1:27:51.693 Hungarian 06/08/2006 Jenson Button Honda 70 1:52:20.941 Turkish 27/08/2006 Felipe Massa Ferrari 58 1:28:51.082 Italian 10/09/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 53 1:14:51.975 Chinese 01/10/2006 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 56 1:37:32.747 Japanese 08/10/2006 Fernando Alonso Renault 53 1:23:53.413 Brazilian 22/10/2006 Felipe Massa Ferrari 71 1:31:53.751 FA 6 Wins going into Japan MS 7 Wins going into Japan I can not quickly find the point standings, but we know MS was running away from FA in Japan and MS drove a great race in Brazil after the flat tire. Ms and his car seemed a lot faster than the rest of the field.
i remember they were tied on points going into Japan. so lets say it's 10 points. then MS engine doesn't blow, he wins and Fred finished 2nd. so, its 20 for MS, 18 for Fred. then fast forward to Brazil. MS 4th, and Fred finished 3rd. so it's 25 for MS and 24 for Fred. so see. MS wins the title
You mean 10 for 1st and 8 for second. So it would be a two point lead for MS going into Brazil. 3rd place is 6 points and 4th is 5 points so MS would have won by 1 point. Here is what I found at: paddocktalk.com: F Alonso (E) 10 8 10 8 8 10 10 10 10 4 8 4 - 8 - 8 10 8 134 M Schumacher (D) 8 3 - 10 10 8 4 8 8 10 10 10 1 6 10 10 - 5 121
yea. really sad the engine blew at such a crucial point of the season. i'll never forget that moment.
I put that moment out of my mind. I will never forget the last race. I get a tear in my eye when I watch that youtube video where they show MS passing the back markers and flashing a number shoing the number of cars he passed. For me it is not that he passed all the cars. But that he was still racing hard knowing that he had no chance at that point to win the race. I am so happy I had the privilege of watching him race his last 7 years.
All I have to say is: How many time in history before have you seen a rival teal that has never used a drivers services run his name with a big thank you on their rear wing (probably the most desirable sponsor spot) during a race?
The same goes for Alonso. He too would have had even less points if it weren't for others' failures. I think what makes Schumacher's Japan engine failure so significant is that it was the first one to happen to him in a race in something like 4 seasons. If such a freak occurrence hadn't happened, he could very well have won an 8th WDC. But of course, there's no point thinking about "ifs". If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle...
Yes, and if no other car on the grid failed all year, he would have finished in 4th. Get your head straight. He has had less failures through out his career than anyone, he's made countless records off of it, having one failure and blaming the loss of a championship on it is plain nearsighted and foolish.
relax. why are u getting so worked up for in what's proving a peaceful look back in time here. we're just discussing how crucial time the engine blew. thats all. we're not looking for excuses here.
Actually 62 250 GTO is right: It is pointless and shortsighted to blame the title loss on that one engine failure when it was reliability that secured other titles or the points amassed up to that race. With the same logic you could argue, that Alonso really should have had a lot more points if it hadn't been for that mechanic who failed to secure the wheel nut at the Hungarian GP. People say that MS lost the 05 season because of the change in the tires regulations handing a big advantage to Michelin and they are right. But at the same token it was the very same Bridgestones that had a technical advantage in the previous years over Michelin. The sword cuts both ways.
Not upset, just pointing how retarded it is. Can you imagine the laughter if MS and co. blamed losing the title on that!? Holy table cloths that would be silly.
The difference was the Bridgestone runners were cut deeper as the gap between the tires was greater that year, still, you live with the bump in HP/ tires/ good fortune and then you go bankrupt because of it.
Yes but the Bridgestones and Michelins were competing on equal ground untill they threw in the (05)one tire rule to slow down Bridgestone and Ferrari. The one tire rule was designed to do just that and once they saw how big a swing it made they reverted back. If that tire change had not come to be then Mike would have had WDC #8 with ease. Instead they handed alonshole his first WDC.
Yes they changed the rules so someone besides Schumi would be WDC. That someone was Alonso 2xWDC. Would have been interesting to see how Schumi would have done this year. My guess is ferrari would have had a better car with his input as a driver. He may have won WDC #8. (Happy for Kimi though. Well deserved win.)
Again, you can't say a season was lost because of a rule change. Rules change all the time. What you folks are doing is called grasping at straws. How could changing that rule "give" or "hand" anyone the title? You guys are looking back, using a one sided formula and calling it fact, be logical.
Well GTO since your a professional on the F1 topic, or so you think you are, would MS have won the title if his engine did not blow in the last race? Yes! that was what I was saying. I was not talking about anything leading to that point. MS had the opportunity to win the championship and the engine happen to blow, if it did not he would have won, so get your "head straight" he will still blow away anyone on the track today including Hami, Alonso, Kimi and the list goes on. How about the other issue when Alonso came up behind MS and bumped his front wing on Schumi's rear tire, shreading it into pieces? Do you think that was deliberate? I certainly do. That also contributed to MS not winning the championship. We could speculate all day long and say this lead to MS getting more points and that lead to MS not winning. The fact of the matter is MS would have won if his engine did not blow. So if you wish to get all worked up about this issue and attack me, go for it, I'll go at it all day with you.
