A different type of exhaust (Ansa)

Rammer,

I believe the inlet diameter should be 2.5 inches not 2 inches. So, while you could probably make these work on a complete custom system from your headers to the Ansa tips, I'm not sure if I'd be happy with 2 inch exhaust outlets. Also, not sure on 308's but 328's have 3 inch outlet on the Catalytic converter should you choose to keep it and it would require you to go from 3 to 2 inches aswell.

I did the homework to build out a complete stainless steel exhaust system with magnaflow mufflers and SS 2.5 inch dual tips for about 600 dollars in parts. You would need to find someone with a mandrel bending machine and pay for the welding and labor on top.

PM me and I can send you the part numbers if you are interested/

cheers.

 

Current early 308GTB is an ANSA FE 2020, althought the suspension points are not correct...

RAMMER,

Find a shop to rework your hangers, I think you can move it down and retighten at the tri flanges.

Also, not true about cutting/realigning the tips, Dr. Barry did it......keep looking !

 

Also check out Ricambi's spring loaded tri flange bolts........that's how the F40 rigged and I have seen it on early 308s as well......

Lets the joint flex a little without cracking seals or shaking the bolts loose......nice!

 

My 308 probably has what is described, made and installed by the PO.

It is basically 8 equal length tracks going into 2 then 1 per bank, a tiny muffler/resonator in each line and tips much like in the pic.

No pics, sorry. I'll try to produce some.

It is LOUD, the banks are totally separated, and most club-members who drove behind us said it sounds great. I never drove it with the stock system, but have no problem keeping up with Euro- QV's, and this is a Euro-spec i 2V.

The original boat-anchor came with the car, nice, stainless. Or so we thought. There was something rattling inside, we opened it up and found the insides are mild steel and mostly gone. So much for that, too quiet anyway. If I wanted to be inconspicuous I would have bought a black VW Polo.

Happy motoring,

Jack V.

 

Take your car to another shop. You can either rework the hangers, as Bubba mentioned, or do some cutting and welding to lower the tips to clear the valance.

 

Maybe his trouble is the stagger slot shroud?

 

It's a '76, that would make it a glass car. Didn't the glass cars come with a single exhaust? In that case the shroud won't accommodate the 4 tips without cutting the apron or bending the pipes.

Happy motoring,

Jack V.

 

I have a November '76 steel car.....North American 'glass versions had a straight rear valence, no cut out.

 

So there's a small difference between the Euro and NA glass 308's, other than the bumpers etc. The Euro ones had, IIRC, a single half-round cut out.

In any case, might the lack of cut-outs in the apron be the problem?

 

There's just been a wide variance in fitment in the aftermarket units over the years......the sport ANSA 4 tip unit should hang below the valence, but does NOT match center to center of the original thermo unit tips so the shroud is often discarded.

One of my cars was butchered badly at rear valance with a home built, so I am aware of the repair parts.

I also will have ANSA on all three so will have a stagger slot shrouds made to fit accordingly.

Sad to see ANSA miss suspension point with FE2020 but it's still OK I have not tried to install yet but will modify/use OEM spring hanger which automatically gives you about 2" of hanger height and drops the tips to clear the body valence.

They are trying to fit as many years as possible but a NON CAT system only goes on '75 -'77 cars! LOL!!

 

No transitional shroud on fiberglass GTBs.

 

I KEEED U!!!!!!! LOL!

 

Mold spores

 

Jack,

You're correct. The rear valance on early Euro GTBs had the single slot. When Euro owners switched to the dual twin tip ANSA sport muffler, they did so with the ANSA FE 1940 muffler as I have mounted on my North American version fiberglass GTB. The fitment was correct for Euro GTBs, but not for the North American version cars. My FE 1940 (ca. 1982 and NLA) had to be modified to clear the valance. Ricambi's spring loaded tri flange bolts might be the answer for the current ANSA FE 2020, as Bubba mentioned.

Barry
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Hopefully BigTex will see your post and give you a detailed explanation, RAMMER. The fitment issue was solved with some cutting and welding in the case of my ANSA FE 1940. I presume you purchased an FE 2020.

 

RAMMER,

Sorry for delay, my brudda!

Man, I wish I could post previous pictures!

At the 3 bolt triangle flanges where we meet the header, I was always having trouble with these bolts working loose and falling out until I saw on another 308GTB (later year???) the solution. They are now carried by Ricambi under F40 parts but it is a LONG bolt that goes thru the two flanges and has a crimped locking nut on it, together with a stout outer spring on the bolt shank. The spring actually provides the pressure to hold the two flanges and the inner donut gasket together, but allows for the engine's slight rocking on the mounts without working loose! The crimped oval hex nut is a part of the answer too.

Don't you still have the OEM muffler hangers with the spring isolators????

I am thinking that since the FE2020 support brakets are located wrong, I will use these springs as the mounting point, usuing a more conventional U bolt around the single inlet pipes, and a support strap up to the spring hanger.....I have a muffler shop on the corner three doors down, so some brisk walks may be required.

Although Valeria has insisted the car be moved from her estate....from my new aprtment it'll be a few blocks!