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Test times @ Jerez - Day 3

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Anxiously waiting for the times. Today is Schumi day. Let's bring it on!
     
  2. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    No!! Rodent day hamster day He he :)
     
  3. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Seriously? No MS today?
     
  4. Simon^2

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    Agreed. What's the tire situation for day 3?
     
  5. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I want to see MS put in a blistering lap time..YES bring it on :)
     
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  8. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    There ze go Brian:

    Schumi against Hamilton:
    The fans stormed the track
    The Giants-duel in Spain + + + Ralf remains in India - are Renner
    From Jerez reported GEORG NOLTE

    The record in the Ferrari champion Michael Schumacher in the tests at Jerez
    Today Giants-Hamilton duel Schumi against Deutsche Formel-1-TageWetten that Schumi is again the fastest? Large sounds Lewis Hamilton: I want to Schumi-Rekord!

    The Giants-duel between Michael Schumacher (38) and Lewis Hamilton (22) electrified the fans.

    Among the tests in Jerez pilgrimage around 25000 spectators to the track. Full stands, miles of traffic jams. In Spain is an Nikolaus holiday, for all Formula 1-Fans is the duel of the giants of the most beautiful holiday surprise at all.


    Welcome to the route: Schumi dead in a black head-shirt with Ferrari driver Felipe Massa


    Schumi
    V
    Hamilton
    To 8.23 pm Schumi comes in the box. 58 minutes later sitting of the most successful drivers ever been in the red in the Ferrari racing overalls. Round for round Schumi chases the World Champion car on the hilly slopes. Repeatedly interrupted by stops in the box to deal with the 12-köpfigen mechanic-team vote. Only after 2:45 hours Michael makes his first break.

    Ferrari laces the real big test package. As the only team to have three cars in the Red. Besides test yet Schumi World champion Kimi Raikkonen (28) and Felipe Massa (26).

    Importantly for the team: According to regulations, they may in a Formel-1-Jahr only 30 days to test drive the 30000 km and 300 tires consume.

    Ferrari is the internal duel between Raikkonen World champion and record-champion Schumacher (7 world title) from the road. Raikkonen tested Tuesday and Wednesday, Schumacher continues today and tomorrow.

    Raikkonen: "A good idea that Michael and I separate days. It is good that he is helping the team. I see nothing wrong turn. "

    Ralf Schumacher has bad luck. At his trial for the Indian team, he remains at 10.07 pm after the finish line, engine damage. 67 minutes before he was with the beginning of the second test day as Premier went to the track.

    Powerful vertebra, there's also behind the scenes.

    While all teams in Jerez test, negotiated the FIA in Monte Carlo on the espionage affair with Renault. With a conviction Renaults would also include the return of Fernando Alonso (26) to the Blue burst.

    The hot rumor: instead for a year to the ex world champion Renault would be for around 50 million euros for one season at Toyota sign.

    Espionage at Renault?

    Team boss Flavio Briatore is already a complaint against McLaren-Mercedes have prepared, the accusations levied against Renault. Briatore compared to the "Daily Express": "A lot of bad things were on us from McLaren in the past few weeks, very harmful things."

    His timetable: "We are acquitted, and as soon as the verdict is established, we will consider legal action."
     
  9. Remy Zero

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    Danke Ze very much Steve. i had no idea u understood German. very cool :)
     
  10. Ambassiatore

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    Why is it taking so long?...

    *update*

    Shumi is there, but he hasnt hit the track just yet...his not on the timetables...

    *update*..nevermind...look below...
     
  11. Wolfgang5150

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    Pos. Driver Team Tires Time Laps
    1 R. Kubica BMW 01:19.157 87
    2 L. Hamilton McLaren 01:19.331 64
    3 F. Massa Ferrari 01:19.333 68
    4 M. Webber Red Bull 01:19.605 63
    5 T. Glock Toyota 01:19.687 40
    6 P. de la Rosa McLaren 01:19.787 75
    7 N. Piquet jr. Renault 01:19.834 90
    8 M. Schumacher Ferrari 01:19.885 67
    9 R. Barrichello Honda 01:19.905 89
    10 N. Heidfeld BMW 01:20.125 87
    11 N. Rosberg Williams 01:20.301 65
    12 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:20.339 56
    13 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:20.507 55
    14 J. Trulli Toyota 01:20.775 99
    15 K. Nakajima Williams 01:20.802 39
    16 L. Filippi Honda 01:20.915 83
    17 D. Coulthard Red Bull 01:21.055 62
    18 T. Sato Super Aguri 01:21.093 79
    19 V. Liuzzi Force India F1 01:21.194 76
    20 R. Schumacher Force India F1 01:21.853 71
     
  12. Wolfgang5150

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    Michael Schumacher completed 67 laps on Thursday. The German busied himself with the 2009 aero package in the afternoon on slick tyres.
     
  13. Simon^2

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    Now why do I think MS held back....
     
  14. Wolfgang5150

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    That explains the time differences....
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  15. cantsleepnk

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    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64300

    In top 10 only Massa and Hamilton were on grooved tires, the rest on slicks.

    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.157 87
    2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.331 64
    3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.333 68
    4. Webber Red Bull-Ferrari (B) 1:19.605 63
    5. Glock Toyota (B) 1:19.687 40
    6. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.787 75
    7. Piquet Renault (B) 1:19.834 90
    8. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:19.885 67
    9. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:19.905 89
    10. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.125 87
    11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.301 65
    12. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.339 56
    13. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.507 55
    14. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:20.775 99
    15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.802 39
    16. Filippi Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.915 83
    17. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.055 62
    18. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.093 79
    19. Liuzzi Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.194 76
    20. R.Schumacher Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.853 71
     
  16. kraftwerk

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    Wow Massa wow Hamster even bigger WOW Kubitz cube
     
  17. tifosi12

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    12 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:20.339 56
    13 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:20.507 55
    The battle of the Sebastians continues


    Team India
    7 Christian Klien Force India F8-VII 1:20.187 + 0.816 86
    9 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India F8-VII 1:20.470 + 1.099 102
    19 V. Liuzzi Force India F1 01:21.194 76
    16 Franck Montagny Force India F8-VII 1:21.559 + 2.517 65
    20 R. Schumacher Force India F1 01:21.853 71
    Ralf, Audi wants you at DTM. Wiedersehn!


    3 F. Massa Ferrari 01:19.333 68
    4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari F2007 1:19.779 + 0.408 87
    8 M. Schumacher Ferrari 01:19.885 67
    The Shue is last.
     
  18. Ambassiatore

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    ...damn...Shumi is trying some other stuff, and massa is the one pushing...will them let Schumi go for it?...I dont think so
     
  19. Formula 1

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    LOL ! What did you expect a Fairy Tale return ?

    Give him some time he's just a little rusty that's all.
     
  20. GSport

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    he was running the 2009 aero package with slicks - significantly less aero (like 25% less than current cars) hence the difference in times. they were never going to allow for a true comparison Hamilton vs. Shumacher or Kimi. No need to cause controversy
     
  21. icky

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    Didn't someone say MS was working on the 2009 aero? That should explain why the car is slower, yes?

    Kubica's time isn't that impressive. He was on slicks while Hamilton and Massa weren't. Heidfield was faster on slicks in day 1 than Kubica wasn't he?
     
  22. YellowbirdRS

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    Just the aero pack, the engine and gearbox is on Felipes (car#5)
    http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7234/diapo191cw0hn3.jpg
     
  23. 1_can_dream

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    Boo put shumi in the same season spec cars that Hamilton and Kimi are in.
     
  24. GERRA456gt

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    +1
     
  25. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Actually according to Swiss Blick's Roger Benoit MS was on slicks, which are about 1 second faster than regular tires. Massa's time was on regular tires. So even if he was running the 2009 package, it is still a pretty unimpressive time. As Benoit comments:

    http://www.blick.ch/sport/formel1/renault-schuldig-trotzdem-straffrei-78037

    "Von den ersten zehn Fahrern verzichteten nur Hamilton (2.) und Massa (3.) auf die rund eine Sekunde schnelleren Slicks. So sah Test-Legende Schumi (am 3. Januar 39) im Ferrari als 8. erstmals etwas alt aus. Warum? Offiziell redet er erst heute mit den Medien…"

    Translation: "Of the first 10 drivers only Hamilton and Massa didn't use the slicks, which are about 1 second faster. Therefore testing legend MS for the first time looked rather old (as in slow) in the Ferrari on 8th place. Why? Officially he'll talk to the Media today..."
     

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