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  1. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

    Dec 5, 2005
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    hi

    has anybody ever expereinced power loss while driving, a couple of times while driving i've lost power, the engine seems to shut off, electrics still work though.

    I've mentioned to my dealer but they say they have never had such a issue, its also happened to a friend of mine a couple of times?

    Cheers
    Fabio
     
  2. fc2

    fc2 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 2, 2006
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    Nope... I have an '07 430 with F1 tranny and no power-loss issues.

    Hope you get it resolved quickly and easily.

    Frank
     
  3. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

    Dec 5, 2005
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    cheers, i'm afraid of it cutting out while overtaking
     
  4. RedRacer

    RedRacer Formula Junior
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    Nov 20, 2006
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    Not to me. '06 430 F1 Spider.
     
  5. LouB

    LouB Formula 3

    Apr 15, 2001
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    Are you hitting thr rev limiter?
     
  6. Joe360

    Joe360 Formula Junior

    Mar 30, 2007
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    Sorry to hear!
    Never had any issues
     
  7. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

    May 27, 2007
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    There were some mention of this on posts couple weeks ago, owner needed to switch off the car and turn back on again problem seems to go away. There were talk that it may be computer issues. Kind of like Microsoft operating system needing to reboot.
     
  8. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

    Apr 7, 2004
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    Any error codes shop up? Regardless you might want to get a diagnostic completed by the dealer.
     
  9. RBK

    RBK F1 Rookie

    Jul 27, 2006
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    I own a 06 430. I experienced the problem once after washing my car. Otherwise, no. Best
     
  10. Scotty

    Scotty F1 World Champ
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    Oct 31, 2003
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    Don't know if this helps. Every time I stalled my car (about 6 times total) on restart the power would be WAY down--like being unable to rev above about 2500 rpm. Turning the key off before restarting solved the issue.
     
  11. FERRARI-TECH

    FERRARI-TECH Formula 3

    Nov 9, 2006
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    Does the engine cut out or just loose power??
    Does it feel like the ASR cutting in where you are on full throttle but only getting about 20% power??
    PM me with more details and I have a couple of idea's
     
  12. jeff

    jeff Formula 3

    Feb 19, 2001
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    Had this happen to me only it was worse. The engine completely shut down while traveling 45 mph in traffic. I was lucky that no one was directly behind me. Very unsettling experience to have the car stop dead in traffic. Dealer could not find anything wrong.
     
  13. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

    Dec 5, 2005
    64
    Thanks for all the replies

    not often enough !!

    no nothing shows up

    Yep, thats what happens, but i'm not stalling the car

    The engine loses power, doesnt cutout and about 15-20 % power. ASR doesnt cut in at all


    I find it very unsettling to think of what could happen and worse of all the dealer cant find anything. I really think Ferrari should look into this alot further and i dont feel too safe driving the car considering it happened about a few times
    I'm not sure what way to approach my dealer regarding the situation
     
  14. The Ape

    The Ape Formula 3

    Feb 28, 2007
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    The big question is does your car have an F1 or Manual??? If it's an F1 then it could be a transmission issue. I had the exact same problem and it took my dealer a while to figure it out. Once they found it they fixed it for good. The diagnostic computer that they plug in to the car doesn't always find this problem, so make them look closely at the F1 system.
     
  15. cpiguy

    cpiguy Formula 3
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    Oct 3, 2007
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    I've had it happen twice in the last 6 weeks since I got the car. The dealer said no trouble found. Many people on line have had the same experience. It seems to resolve itself if the engine is turned off and restarted. Very Weird.
     
  16. Way2fast

    Way2fast Formula 3

    May 24, 2006
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    This happen to me two days ago. I came off the freeway and came to a light. I was talking on my cell and did not downshift into first gear. When the light turned green I stalled the car. I hit the start button instantly and it barely accelerated away in first gear. I went into a gas station and after getting gas it was fine. I spoke to the mechanic at the dealership about it. He thinks it has to do with not turning the key off and back on after stalling the car and getting the CHECK OK light on the dash before starting. If you stall the car just make sure to turn the key off and back on before starting
     
  17. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

    Dec 5, 2005
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    i can understand it happening when you stall the engine but not while just driving along in 3rd gear at 4000 rpm

    BTW Merry christmas everyone , hope yous' have a great day ;)
     
  18. cwwhk

    cwwhk Formula 3

    Nov 13, 2003
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    When battery power is interupted to the engine ECU and you restart then it may not have initiallyized itself properly. Turning the engine off and restarting again basically gives you a reboot of the software. As you said this is not your type of problem.

    If your problem comes on intermittently while driving then you may have a intermittent loose electrical connection somewhere.

    First check that the plug to the ECUs are properly plugged in. I have seen a case where one of the ECU plug was initially pushed on askew. So the rubber seal was kind of pinched between the connectors thus preventing a perfect seating.

    Second, you may want to check the connector of the potentiometer at the throttle pedal. On the 360 it's often a source of problem. 430 still has the same part number so I assume it's still a problem. Sometimes a mere plugging in and unplugging will solve the problem. Sympton of this problem is either no throttle response at all or very limited power. SD2 or SD3 may not show a fault, if your connection is interminttently loose.

    The problem with many Ferrari wiring connectors is that the spring tab on the female pin breaks sometimes. So it may appear the connectors are OK, but in fact the male pin is not contacting the female pin.
     
  19. RobHulme

    RobHulme Karting

    Mar 13, 2005
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    Had exactly the same problem a few times since new-Jan 06. Dealer can't find anything wrong. Corrects itself once you switch off ignition and on again. My car is 06 430 spider with manual tran. Doubt if Ferrari will bother to fix it. Lucky to drive a 430 with full power 99.9% of the time!
     
  20. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    This sounds like an ECU glitch. The dealer should possibly pull it and send it back for diagnosis and reflashing. Maybe they're just hoping it goes away until it becomes a bigger problem.
     
  21. marknkidz

    marknkidz Formula 3
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    Yea...exactly. Or waiting for warranty to expire!!
     
  22. F430abio

    F430abio Karting

    Dec 5, 2005
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    think i'll have a new one before the warranty expires ;)
     
  23. racerdj

    racerdj F1 Veteran
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    +1
     
  24. Moopz

    Moopz F1 Veteran
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    #24 Moopz, Feb 19, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2011
    I'm looking at a mint 2007 430 spider at the local F-car dealership and I noticed that the service history recently included a complaint about the car "shifting as if it is bogging down and that the vehicle shut off on customer while driving." Car only has 1700 miles on it and I test drove it today. If the car wasn't flawless inside/out I wouldn't still be looking at it, but has anyone found a solution to this issue? Also, for anyone who has had this happen before, was it a one-time thing or something that occasionally re-occurred? Thanks in advance.

    BTW, this episode happened to the car in 10/2010. Car went on sale immediately thereafter and the warranty expired in 12/2010 (The state of Florida does not allow the power-cube warranty to be added at the time of purchase, so there is no warranty on the car at this time).
     
  25. ELP_JC

    ELP_JC Formula 3

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    #25 ELP_JC, Feb 19, 2011
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    My simple question to dealer would be if they did anything about it, and exactly what. If not, I'd walk away. My suspicion is they didn't, and that's why previous owner unloaded it. I'd also ask dealer since the problem was reported before warranty expired, if it's still covered, and for how long. Problems like that is why I decided to buy a car with 8K+ miles, rather than pay more for a lower mileage one, which was my inclination. Good luck.

    By the way, there's an '06 on Ebay with 1,500 miles (red/tan/black top), and the guy was willing to let it go for $150K. Well optioned but no CCBs. You should try that one. It was my second option, but decided on the 8K-mile one since it was used the recommened 2K miles/year, plus had every single option... and got it for 10 grand less :).
     

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