New Scuderia Killer??????????????

didnt read all the comments but just wanna say, its a corvette, even if it was faster than a scuderia, ferrari has a reputation much better than corvette, and if they did show that the vette was faster, I'm sure ferrari would come out with another super ferrari to show they will always be the best

 

I guess getting the boot from the EC was not enough to turn on any lights. It seems odd that every thread you participate in gets dragged down to mud slinging and profanity.
I most certainly do not agree with the positions of all the people on board on many things, but I respect the right of others, appreciate and respect Fchat as a forum and genuinely care not to purposefully offend others. So if that makes me a 3rd grader, I hope recess comes soon.

 

+1 he probabilly has a honda accord with f430 badges on it

 

Oh you mean getting kicked out of a crew with 5 guys that own ferraris, 95 guys that blow the guys that own the ferraris and everyone praying to brad farrell???? yeah that shouldve been a real eye opener. and by the way I probably woulve self pieced after you made your wife a member anyway---------why did that happen?????------not allowed to play with the boys unless mommy watches????? RECESS OVER B1TCH.

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142824 exactly right, v-tec power baby.

 

So is anyone going to rip the MSRC systems out of your F-cars? You know, it was licensed from GM, that company that sucks, blows, can't build a car....

 

Another Moron. A Poker Player and a Stock Broker, two really classy guys who know the price but not the value of a car. Too bad Matteo is no longer around, he was the one that figured out who the Tool was on these boards.

 

ohhhh great--- another "you have a new ferrari so you must not know the value of it and only bought it cause you heard it was hard to get/hot" points of view. does it ever get old?????? if i didnt know "value" why would I take a used mini cooper s over that dog$h1t vette?????? what does me being a stockbroker have of any relevence????? ohhhhh right ----another "all stockbrokers are cokehead/scumbag hooker bangers" points of view-----does that ever get old??????-----dont start with that holier then thou BS. "small business owner from southern california" a.k.a. fuxing the little guy/mexicans over to buy ferraris. blow it out your A$$-----jagoff

 

You just show to everyone here what a lowlife troll you are.
You bring nothing to discussion except your trailer trash personality (no offense to people living in trailers as even the lowest of the low would have more class then a little d..ck like you)
Don't bother answering this post as I am not going to even acknowledge it.(Thanks God for "Ignore List")

 

who you calling a little duck???

 

All Ferrari owners ought to be embarrassed by the behavior of those posting in this thread. I always knew most Ferrari owners were snobs, but man, this takes it to a whole new level. I know a lot of decent people that own Ferraris and I can say for a fact that reading this thread would make them feel ashamed to be a Ferrari owner.

But I do sympathize with the Ferrari owners who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a car that will get easily smoked by a car that costs a fraction of what theirs did. I would be mad too. It's like finding out I spent $10,000 on an HDTV when I easily could have gotten a better one for less than $1500! But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Ferrari owners made that mistake as well. Most Ferrari owners probably subscribe to the theory that "If it costs more it is better." Ferrari has been banking on that perception for years, producing inferior products at ridiculously over-inflated prices. But then again, most people who own Ferraris are more concerned with looking cool than actually driving it.

If the Ferrari is a so-called "high performance" car, why all the bickering about interiors? Give me a 600 hp car, and I could care less what the inside looks like. Give me a seat, a shifter, a gas pedal, and a steering wheel and that's all I need. I'm going to drive the thing, not try and impress people with it. Heated leather seats aren't going to do me any good when I'm doing 175 on the highway. But then again, I guess those heated leather seats and gorgeous interiors come in handy for Ferrari owners when they're sitting in traffic trying to get looks. After all, that's what Ferraris are best at.

 

I agree that I am embarrassed at some of the comments.

However your analogy is just way too simplistic. Just because a car is faster it does not make it better. Its just such a one dimensional train of thought, I can think of thousands of cars which may be quicker than my ride but would I choose them over my current cars, absolutely not.

I sold my tuned R34 Skyline GT-R and yes it was much faster than my 360 but would I go back. Hell no!
The new GT-R hits 60mph in 3.3 seconds but would I swap my 360 for one? Hell no!

If you still haven't got it you never will.

 

In fact it was licensed from Delphi Electronics, the now bankrupt electronics supplier that GM had an interest in and managed to run into the ground.

No-one is questioning the technology at play here. I know that technologically the new Corvette is among the best that is available out there bar none. The issue is the cheapness of the finished product. The tackiness that GM is prepared to put out there is mind boggling. It is an insult to the fine engineers and workers who put their heart and soul into the product only to see it demeaned by a corporate philosophy that has resulted in a steady and it seems irreversible decline of GM over the past 50 years.
I for one am delighted that my 599 has Delphi Magnetic suspension. It is by far the best product of its type out there. Ditto for the Denso AC and the Brembo brakes and the PPG paint and the Pininfarina bodywork.
Ferrari at least has figured out how to take the best products out there and incorporate them into a car of their own design that represents the highest quality available, and for that they get a premium price and unabated demand.
GM has the resources and the muscle to do the same or better and all they do is squander the opportunity every time by compromising their products over pennies. That is the issue for me.

 

+1

 

What a small world. As Z-06 and 430 owner, I just (about 1 hour ago) wrote the following regarding the interior of the proposed ZR-1. Among other things, I am (by a member of that forum) viewed as a "snob". I join those who are, at least, embarrassed, by the behavior of some of us. Anger results from fear and fear a threat. What is so "threatening" about different views? Last time I looked, a great many of us died for the right to choose. Best

What I just wrote for the Corvette Forum

"When I enter my Ferrari or Bentley, I breathe in the aroma of fine leather. When entering my Z-06, I am fearful what I smell is "toxic". I don't know what the seats are made of, but they stink.

I race a C6 and appreciate all the technology. I don't care about noise or creature comforts. Ferrari has come out with a 430 Scudaria, absent insulation, etc. Some prefer the noise, and willing to endure a harsher ride etc., for a "faster" car, good for them. Not my idea of a good time on the street. A world class exotic or supercar cannot rest on "speed" alone. When my wife and I go out or I just want to take a drive up the coast, I want to hear noise from the exhaust not through my dash board, and inhale without fearing for my life. The interior of Corvettes looks and smells cheap. If I am going to spend $100,000 + for the new car, I would like the option of spending a few thousand more (I don't care about resale) for a "complete" exotic-super-worldclass car. It should at least be offered. Best "

 

So you think that people who are smart enough to make lots of cash are somewhat stupid when it comes time to spend it. What do you drive and what kind of tv do you own?


QUOTE=coltzr1;137328737]All Ferrari owners ought to be embarrassed by the behavior of those posting in this thread. I always knew most Ferrari owners were snobs, but man, this takes it to a whole new level. I know a lot of decent people that own Ferraris and I can say for a fact that reading this thread would make them feel ashamed to be a Ferrari owner.

But I do sympathize with the Ferrari owners who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a car that will get easily smoked by a car that costs a fraction of what theirs did. I would be mad too. It's like finding out I spent $10,000 on an HDTV when I easily could have gotten a better one for less than $1500! But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Ferrari owners made that mistake as well. Most Ferrari owners probably subscribe to the theory that "If it costs more it is better." Ferrari has been banking on that perception for years, producing inferior products at ridiculously over-inflated prices. But then again, most people who own Ferraris are more concerned with looking cool than actually driving it.

If the Ferrari is a so-called "high performance" car, why all the bickering about interiors? Give me a 600 hp car, and I could care less what the inside looks like. Give me a seat, a shifter, a gas pedal, and a steering wheel and that's all I need. I'm going to drive the thing, not try and impress people with it. Heated leather seats aren't going to do me any good when I'm doing 175 on the highway. But then again, I guess those heated leather seats and gorgeous interiors come in handy for Ferrari owners when they're sitting in traffic trying to get looks. After all, that's what Ferraris are best at.[/QUOTE]

 

+1000

The issue is some people are arrogant enough (insecure is a better word) that they have to make stupid comments about the owners of Corvettes, which some of us happen to own both of.
These people usually know nothing about the cars, rather they equate the Mark of the car rather than the individuals who own them.

By the way, Merry Christmas, Alex, Trev, Sanguru, and Ronnie.

 

"Two different cars reflect the approach of two different manufacturers and two different cultures. Appreciate them both."

Truer words have not been written.

 

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You aren't even smart enough to understand my post. I never said people who make lots of cash are "somewhat stupid" nor did I even imply that. That had nothing to do with my post. I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

As for me, not that it matters, but I'm just a 21 year old guy that drives a 90 Corvette ZR-1... The original King of The Hill.

 

this has honestly got to be the dumbest post and point of view I have ever heard in my life. I will submit it in support of the death penalty.

As for your "getting smoked" thats the whole point. Im out trying to enjoy a fine meal, maybe do some shopping with a choice piece of ass, or just cruise to the most soulfull song italy has to offer and there you come in your 20 yr old vette, burning more oil then gas, trying to "smoke" me. typical. WHO CARES HOW FAST A G0DDAMN CAR IS MAN??????

and for you to even say a ferrari is not a "high performance car" and inferior product is rediculous.

I had a brand new gallardo and sold it in 4 months. Faster?????? absolutly. Did it make me feel a little corny????? definatly

Picture the CEO of Goldman Sachs rolling up in a civic, lowered with gold rims and a fart can exhaust-----catch my drift???????

does that make me a snob?????????

go race yourself

 

I actually find it offensive when you state that you "know" that most Ferrari owners are snobs. I guess you move in the wrong circles because I know literally hundreds of Ferrari owners and almost all of them are anything but snobs. They are car enthusiasts who enjoy their cars, enjoy socializing with car nuts of any flavor and are generally good people who go out of their way to allow others to enjoy their cars as well at various car shows, weekend gatherings and anywhere in general where someone may approach them for info or even a ride.

You say you are 21. Well it shows in your post. The immaturity and need to snap back also show quite clearly in many of the other asinine posts that this thread has generated. If you have issues with some of what you have read here, feel free to refute a specific post here or any information that you can reference, but don't try to paint all of us with the same broad brush you are complaining about.

 

It is noteworthy how many posts there are on this thread. I joked with my wife the only thread with more posts is the Bikini Thread. Even eliminating the "immature", so many feel so strongly. Every time a Z-06 is compared (in any way) to a Ferrari, it illicits a visceral response. I wonder why? My guess is we have more than a financial investment in this marque and maybe, just maybe, some of us risk obsession and too close an identification with the "brand". The answer for me was to buy everything I like. For those who have to choose, it is risky, having to tell the world who you are and what you "prefer". There is a psychology course here somewhere. Nothing against anyone, for or against any car, just could not help but wonder. Best

 

Nothing like a Corvette vs Ferrari to keep the forum alive . We should have a monthly debate..

 

You aren't even smart enough to understand my post. I never said people who make lots of cash are "somewhat stupid" nor did I even imply that. That had nothing to do with my post. I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

As for me, not that it matters, but I'm just a 21 year old guy that drives a 90 Corvette ZR-1... The original King of The Hill.[/QUOTE]

Four of us found the post out of place and maybe the other two understood the same thing out of your post. Anyway english is my third language and I understand it well enough. Maybe I'm not as dumb as you think, but maybe you're a genius. By the way you forgot to mention what tv do you own? Didn't you noticed the two questions. I bet that reading comprehension isn't the problem here.

Merry Christmas

L.