MASSA Intends To Bid For 2008 WDC

I just love you guys. The same gang that cried at the end of the season that Kimi won only because MAssa gave him "at least 3 races" is now saying how Massa is half-ass driver that will never amount to nothing. I thing YOU should give it up. Massa has achieved more in his last year at Ferrari that Button will in his entire career. As much as I love Kubica, you can add him too, together with bunch of other guys that are "all better than Massa".
Of course he does good only because he is in a Ferrari which is a valid argument, only as long as it is not used about Hamilton. Right?
You forget that for the first half of the season he fared better than Kimi and if it wasn't for Monza it may have been Kimi pulling over for Massa. But of course this is nothing for you guys since you know it all and anyone who even tries to have a different opinion should not even post here.

 

Just because you hate Massa doesn't mean everyone must as well. I see great talent in him, you don't. different opinions.

 

+1

 

Oh and Alonshole is someone who may be 10X the driver but I have no respect for him no matter what. I watched a video on you-tube that shows him walking by a wall with the portraits of all the WDC and making a big demonstrative gesture crossing MS's face. Same guy also swore left and right that he would never drive for Ferrari in his life no matter what. He sang a different tune this year.
Alonshole?-a good driver?-Yes
Alonshole?-Respect?- No way

 

I have great respect for you just by following your Dino thread, but plese don't call Massa a great Talent.

 

I have called Massa a no talent bum ever since he went to Ferrari in 06, nothing has changed for me, I think Sato has more talent, let alone JPM or Button.

 

You need to do a little research before you go spouting off such ridiculous comments.

Heidfeld and Massa were ALREADY teammates at Sauber. Heidfeld destroyed Massa. He destroyed him SO BADLY that sauber fired Massa and he spent 2003 as a test driver.

Do some reading before you go making such uninformed statements. You will save yourself some embarrassment.

 

he's referring to now, not the past

 

Ted, as did FISI and JV.

 

why not? whats wrong with differing opinions?

 

I guess having the team principal's son as your manager had nothing to do with it?

Oh, since you seem to avoid this inconvenient fact, Schumacher hand-picked his #2s to ensure that he would never have to race alongside a top-level talent. He nixed Ferrari's signing of Mika Hakkinan and he did everything in his power to prevent Kimi from joining Ferrari.

He agreed to Massa because he knew (correctly) that Massa was no more a threat as a teammate than was Rubens or Irvine before him.

 

You criticize Hamilton but you think Massa is a future WDC?!?

I think that just about says it all for your understanding of F1...

 

You are aware that he has finished behind EVERY SINGLE TEAMMATE he has ever had in F1, and not merely Schumacher, are you not??

He was so soundly thrashed by Heidfeld that he had to spend the following year as a test driver. He was humiliated by Fisichella in the same car, did you knw?

Do some research before you embarrass yourself any further.

 

I think he has been doing research at the "355" & "Phylotic" school of knowledge.

 

This is why NOW one of them drinks champagne on the podium on regular occasion and the others struggle to make it into Q3

 

And all this is a fact because you know for sure. I forgot that since you bought a Ferrari now that gives you the power of eternal knowledge. Right?

 

Don't get personal, and keep on topic, you have a bad habit of personal attacks. He has more knowledge than you do.

 

Man, for I don't know which time I wonder if you can read english.
I did not criticize Hamilton, but the British press and all people who proclaimed him the next Great one and the WDC half way through the season. But I guess just because I agree that he is definitely someone to watch in the future I should not notice how really outworldly he F-up the championship?
Also all I said is that Massa has potential and that your sanity is questionable for saying that he has no talent.
And please don't pull that card with who is his manager as this may have had something to do with him being hired in the beginning, but definitely not with him being signed again.

 

Was this the same Fisichella that finished behind Massa in '06 in a superior car, or he has a brother that I don't know about?

 

I am not trying to get personal at all, but he has pulled his Ferrari card before along with quite few more. Talking about history, he is the one with the history and has annoyed numerous people with his arrogant opinions stated as facts.
And the 3 of you (mind I was not the one who came up with the 3 musketeers moniker) have history of hanging in here like wolfpack barking at anyone who disagrees with your joint opinions, which a lot of times makes it questionable which team you are rooting for.

 

We were comparing drivers in the same exact car as there Teammate.

 

Yeah, and I was comparing the same people a couple of years later, with Massa's ex teammate having a superior car. Which only proves how much he has improved. When they were teammates on 1 to 10 Massa was a 2 and Fisi maybe 4. Now Massa is 7 or 8 and Fisi stayed at 4. This is the difference.

 

I think the reason Massa was fairing better than Kimi was mainly due to Kimi taking time to get familiar with the car, tires, team...etc. It would seem to me that if Massa had WDC contender talant and such capability that he should have been completely dominating Kimi throughout the entire season especially at least the first half. Massa had obviously much more time with the team, car, tires...etc. Interestingly enought though, I think Massa was only like 5 points ahead of Kimi after the French "middle of the season" GP.

IMHO, I agree with others on here that Ferrari have exactly what they want with Massa. A fantastic #2 supporting driver.

 

I don't disagree with anything you say. I too believe that Ferrari have exactly what they need in Massa.
I don't agree with people who bash him for personal reasons and are claiming that he is waisting space rightfully belonging to other drivers.

 

The fact is that soon the season will start and then we will see. I may be wrong and Massa may finish waaaayyyyyyy behind Kimi as some here predict, due to lack of talent. Then I would eat my crow however you like to serve it to me, with dignity and admitting my fault. The question is, things go the other way, by that I don't mean Massa necessarily WDC, if the people so badly bashing him would do the same, 'cause I remember quite few folks jumping the bandwagon last year.