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  1. ernie

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    Oh it'll run alright. Mark doesn't know any better for it not to.
     
  2. KKRace

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    Thanks for allowing us to look over your shoulder. This is like a soap opera for gearheads, can't wait for the next episode. I spent a little time with some of the Formula SAE guys at U of MD about ten years ago. Great program. Tried to teach some of the guys a few things about racing. Meeting deadlines, importance of testing and drivability and such. They were focusing mostly on peak HP and craming the driver in the car as an after thought regardless of what uncomfortable position he was in. Helping a friend with his stepson that are doing a robotics competion for high school students. The program is sponsored by NASA. Wish they had that when I was in school. I might have gone every once in a while.
     
  3. Jdubbya

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    That is amazing that you got that flatbar that close using an arbor press. I know guys that couldn't get it that close using a high dollar press brake.

    I've followed this thread and every time I think I've seen you do something amazing you always seem to find a way to top it!! Keep it up, this is inspiring!!!
     
  4. mk e

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    That's exactly right. I went back to school after having been out and actually raced stuff so I knew a little better and the guys I worked with were great, worked very very hard (there were only 4 of us compared to 30-60 at many schools)…..and willing to accept any vetoes I handed out. Last I heard the car is still running 10 or 12 years later and they still haven’t been able to build anything that can beat it at anything.
     
  5. mk e

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    LOL

    The thing to remember is there isn't any 1 task here that is particularly hard. The issues come when you try to look at the job as a whole instead of breaking it down into the relatively simple steps.

    It’s the same as standing on the ground looking up at the 2nd floor balcony; if you want to get up there jumping just it’s going to do it no matter how hard you try, you need to look for the stairs.
     
  6. ducowti

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    Nice analogy. You have wisdom beyond your ears. :)
     
  7. schwaggen

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    madness....MADNESS!!!!

    you're insane, in the best way possible.

    I was overmatched trying to put a porsche 356 motor back together (which is less sophisticated than your average lawn mower) and you're making a Ferrari V 12 out of sweat, eyeballing, and welding rods... in awe, as I said in a previous post.

    Can't wait to HEAR this mo fo..
     
  8. SMS

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    This is soooo cool.

    I can envision some guy in 10 years from now beating his head against a wall trying to find replacement parts for this car! :)
     
  9. mk e

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    Or the look of confusion on the face of the mechanic trying to do the PPI :)
     
  10. GrigioGuy

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    Nah, by then it will be rocket powered -- with a supercharger
     
  11. mk e

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    hmmm....a supercharged rocket engine...I hadn't thought of that.....

    :)
     
  12. ernie

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    Hahahahaaa!
     
  13. schwaggen

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    Nope:


    Flux Capacitor. Generating 1.21 Gigawatts of power!

    (just be careful around 88 MPH)
     
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  16. BoxerCrazy

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    I know!!! I check it AT LEAST 3 or 4 times a day!!!
    this is GREAT STUFF!!!


    doug
     
  17. Sean F.

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    Is the work being done on the trans case something that would have to be done regardless of which block you choose? I seem to recall reading in Goldmans book that some cutting up of the trans/diff case was necessary.
     
  18. mk e

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    Some work would have to be done regardless of the block. I'm doing more here than required because I decided to lower the engine, but it will save me some work later when I don't need to modify the deck lid and will make a better handling car.
     
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    You guys should make a weekend out of it and stop by and help :)
     
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  22. Newman

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    but this is a bigger challenge! Plus it makes for more reading for all the viewers :)

    Hurry up and get to the cam drive end of things, I cant wait.
     
  23. mk e

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    I will, I will.

    I want to get all the heavy fab work done before I move on to the detail work. I hate to wrap up a lot of time in details until the major surgery is done and looks good.

    With the cam drive it's all down hill now that the timing cover goes on. The tensioners, idlers,drive gears are all in the cover so all I have left to do is adapt the 400 sprockets to the on TR cams. I thing that will involve welding in new hubs into the sprockets and cutting 2 of the cams off and remachining the oil seal area to be the sprocket mount.

    I think I need to go back to the engine after I cut and fit the trans end cover and before I go to work on the bell housing. The block is a little warped and needs some re-machining and I want that done before I fit and drill to locate it on the trans.
     
  24. rtking

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    Mark, not sure if you saw, but in the first photo you posted today, there's a gap that hasn't been welded up between your AL bar stock and the transmission case. If you look directly down from the V gap you filled by welding, you'll see it...
     
  25. mk e

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    The first photo shows the bar is just tacked in, I posted it just to show the size weld prep required on the thick flange area. That small area I built up with weld when I put in the fill plate the other day and welding leaves a round corner which lets you see through and that's what you see there. If you look down to the4th and 5th pictures you can see there is now a full and continuous weld between the case and the bar. It’s actually full welded both inside and outside…....its there to stay....and not leak :)
     

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