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Why The English Don't Design Ferraris - 1952 212 Inter Coupe S/N 0165EL by Abbott

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  1. modena1_2003

    modena1_2003 F1 Rookie

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    #1 modena1_2003, Feb 23, 2008
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    This car's chassis was a show car at the London Earl's Court Car Show in 52' .

    In 1986, the car was rebodied as a very nice 1951 Touring Barchetta... Maybe for the best. ;)

    Does ANYBODY have any more info or pictures of this thing?

    -J
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  2. P4Replica

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    .... it was probably 'designed for the American market'. :D

    You're obviously conveniently ignoring where and by whom the majority of Ferrari F1 cars have been designed since the late 1980's. ;)
     
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  3. Horsefly

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    Obviously designed by the Lee brothers: Ug Lee and Home Lee. One of their early works.
     
  4. DavkeG

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    To be honest, I don't think it's extremely ugly. Just not "Ferrari-like".
     
  5. modena1_2003

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    LOL, very good! Perhaps you are right!

    It is a curious little car, I think. I'd love to see more period photos of the monster.



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  6. UroTrash

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    The ugly quotient would drop 50% with a two-tone-highlight delete.
     
  7. Jack-the-lad

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    Perhaps post-war British interpretation of a flame job...

    Jack
     
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  8. ArtS

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    There was a thread dedicated to this car a couple of years ago.

    There isn't a single nice line on that car, it is truly ugly. Personally, I've grown to like the car. I would love to have the original body refitted and drive it to Cavallino or any other high end concours/show. It would be a blast!


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    Art S.
     
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  9. James in Denver

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    The OP said it was "rebodied", what happened to the original body? Anyone know? Was it straight removed or was it involved in a wreck or something that made it a requiremet to re-body it?

    James in Denver
     
  10. CMY

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    On the fence with this one- I agree that it's not the best looking automobile I've seen but I probably wouldn't erase history in favor of something better looking. Even ugly has it's place. :)
     
  11. modena1_2003

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    I don't even think Fabio could get a "flame-job" in the front seat of this thing... ;)



    -J
     
  12. opus10583

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    A tragically unsuccessful interlude, actually. Jean Todt brought it all back in-house with the '97 car, iirc. Certainly by 1998.
     
  13. jsa330

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    Interesting automotive oddity, for sure; as a Ferrari, unique beyond unique.

    What's fun to think about are the vintage 12-cyl sounds emanating from this car, and the corresponding performance...it looks like it should have a 60 HP inline four under the hood.

    Too bad it was rebodied.
     
  14. modena1_2003

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    I think it should have curb feelers and golden-Borranis. :D

    Bling - Bling ...






    -J
     
  15. John Vardanian

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    Bless their heart, the English. They do try. You have to give them a "C" for effort.
     
  16. Chaos

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    yeah i mean lets all remember those ugly English cars like the aston db4/5/6, jag c/d/e/mk2, tvr griffith, lotus elan/elise - LOL
     
  17. G.C.Singhof

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    While at least the Aston Martin DB4 was designed by Touring of Milano. LOevenL ;-)
    I like english cars.
    Kind regards
    Wolfgang
     
  18. Daytonafan

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    Rory Byrne is South African not English :)
     
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  20. Chaos

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    GT40 - nuff said
     
  21. DAYTONASME

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    Paul -my book suggests Abbey NOT Abbott, easy mistake

    "The first chassis built by Abbey Panels of Coventry was delivered on March 16, 1963. The first "Ford GT" the GT/101 was unveiled in England on April 1 and soon after exhibited in New York.

    The car was powered by the 4.2 L Fairlane engine with a Colotti transaxle, the same power plant was used by the Lola GT and the single-seater Lotus 29 that came in a highly controversial second at the Indy 500 in 1963. (A DOHC head design was used in later years at Indy. It won in 1965 in the Lotus 38.)"

    Ed
     
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    says im not authroized to view the pic - what is it ?
     
  23. DAYTONASME

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    Nick car is a Bristol 405 DHC

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  24. Nembo1777

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    That is one of 2 of the ugliest Ferraris of all time: they definitely had too much fish and chips and warm beer before doing that...
     
  25. modena1_2003

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    That car does look like a "warm beer" sports car...


    -J
     
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