Stradale TCU for regular 360 | FerrariChat

Stradale TCU for regular 360

Discussion in '360/430' started by griffith_500, Feb 23, 2008.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. griffith_500

    griffith_500 Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
    96
    Switzerland
    Full Name:
    Andy
    I've read posts by several board members quoting that they have a Stradale TCU on their 360. The folks at my dealership keep telling me that they're not sure if it will work and if yes it would also require fitting to the Stradale clutch.
    I would appreciate if any of you who have done the change could go into more detail on what kind of work was involved and if you're happy with it. Is the Sport button still fully functional (damper control and switch between fast and slower gearchanges)?
    My car is 1/2004 if that matters.

    Thanks a lot
    Andy
     
  2. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
    Sponsor Owner

    It will work. No special clutch needed.

    Other Fchatters can confirm the setup/configuration.
     
  3. jbdmd

    jbdmd Formula 3

    Sep 30, 2007
    1,147
    Phoenix
    Full Name:
    Doc Jay
    will the sd2/3 tell me if my TCU has been upgraded? My dealer suspects it has been
     
  4. lawwdog

    lawwdog Formula 3

    Dec 4, 2002
    1,178
    Northern California
    Full Name:
    Mario

    Cost for the TCU ?
     
  5. jbdmd

    jbdmd Formula 3

    Sep 30, 2007
    1,147
    Phoenix
    Full Name:
    Doc Jay
    $1590 at Ricambi
     
  6. lawwdog

    lawwdog Formula 3

    Dec 4, 2002
    1,178
    Northern California
    Full Name:
    Mario
    thanks
     
  7. duskybird

    duskybird F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 20, 2007
    12,533
    29 Electoral Votes
    Full Name:
    Bill B.
    It works. You just need to do an SD2/3 set up.
     
  8. allanuber

    allanuber Karting

    Aug 5, 2006
    230
    Sydney, Australia
    Full Name:
    Al Jansen
    Works, did it to my 2000 360 modena. Ordered from Ricambi and had it on the doorstep in Sydney in 3 days.

    Workshop just dropped it in, minor check on their diagnostics, then off we went.

    Biggest changes are:

    1. More aggressive upshifts - especially high in the rev range. Low RMP 1-2 still jerky, but better than original.
    2. MUCH more aggresive blips on the downshifts
    3. Car does not drop into N at the lights when stopped
     
  9. griffith_500

    griffith_500 Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
    96
    Switzerland
    Full Name:
    Andy
    Thanks for the answers so far. Can you also tell me about the sport button functionality? Any changes there?

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  10. allanuber

    allanuber Karting

    Aug 5, 2006
    230
    Sydney, Australia
    Full Name:
    Al Jansen
    Not a great deal of change to the shift in either mode - though that being said I pretty much drive with the sport button on all the time!
     
  11. E60 M5

    E60 M5 Moderator
    Moderator Owner

    Jan 2, 2006
    8,153
    Wash DC area
    Full Name:
    Robert
    I am interested in hearing other comments with relation to the ECU upgrade.

    Allen,
    Do you think the upshift is mental or you really notice the difference? More aggressive downshifts?? The shift is quicker? Wouldn't be the same up or down on the shift at wot(wide open throttle)?

    So was it worth it??


    Robert
     
  12. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

    Apr 7, 2004
    3,007
    You can physically look under the access panel behind the right seat and get the 6 digit number on the Magnetti Marelli box. This # will tell you/dealer what generation TCU you have.
     
  13. jbdmd

    jbdmd Formula 3

    Sep 30, 2007
    1,147
    Phoenix
    Full Name:
    Doc Jay
    thanks
     
  14. duskybird

    duskybird F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 20, 2007
    12,533
    29 Electoral Votes
    Full Name:
    Bill B.
    I ran mine side by side with another 2000 360 before and after. The shifts in sport mode at WOT are much harder and the down shifts (Larini no cats at the track) are insane the throttle blip and the aggressive down shift really complete the package. I would sugest starting with new fluid as the CS TCU runs at a higher pressure.
     
  15. jbdmd

    jbdmd Formula 3

    Sep 30, 2007
    1,147
    Phoenix
    Full Name:
    Doc Jay
    #15 jbdmd, Feb 25, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017

    Here is a pic of mine

    The MY00 makes me think it has not been upgraded...thoughts??
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  16. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

    Apr 7, 2004
    3,007
    Correct. You have the 1st version.
     
  17. jbdmd

    jbdmd Formula 3

    Sep 30, 2007
    1,147
    Phoenix
    Full Name:
    Doc Jay

    now for something a little harder....why is the sky blue??? what started time??? :)

    thanks again
     
  18. allanuber

    allanuber Karting

    Aug 5, 2006
    230
    Sydney, Australia
    Full Name:
    Al Jansen
    True that.

    Also the shift points are a little different, and there was a noticable improvement in my 1-2nd shift which seemed to be much laggier with the 1st generation 2000 TCU (vs late 2003 for the Challenge TCU we picked up).

    I don't think anyone has a clear idea on whether the new TCU has a positive or negative impact on maintainability - it feels like less slippage and punchier changes especially 1-2, 2-3 - but whether this is beneficial or not for clutch life is probably yet to be seen as we run these cars for a longer period on the new TCU's.
     
  19. djastral69

    djastral69 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Aug 6, 2007
    1,896
    Fl
    Full Name:
    David
    I can also chime in on this one. The Stradale TCU id defintely worth it as I just put it in my 2001 Spyder and with a PIS setting of 4.1 as well as shift points that are considerably better than the stock counterparts, I would and will say that it is Very worth the upgrade.

    'D
     
  20. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
    Project Master

    Oct 29, 2005
    4,319
    Gibraltar
    Full Name:
    360trev
    As Daniel stated no Stradale clutch is required.

    I believe Ferrari only uprated the Stradale clutch (and the driveshafts) to help with Launch Control, this was not primarily for longevity reasons due to the new transmission software programming. Inevitably though you do not get nothing for nothing and extra performance will reduce the lifespan you get out of it, however due to improved software the clutch life was also improved too so the difference IMHO isn't going to be vast. Obviously your driving style will always be a very important element of clutch life.
     
  21. griffith_500

    griffith_500 Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
    96
    Switzerland
    Full Name:
    Andy
    This is really confusing. I confronted my dealer with the input from this thread and he said that it is impossible to use the Stradale TCU since it is mapped to the Stradale ECU.
    He also said there would be issues with the Stradale TCU because of the LC option.
    He thought that many might have been be tricked into believing they have the Stradale TCU when in realitiy they were sold the newer regular TCU. I'm not sure on this one, I believe there's plenty of experts on this board who can very well differentiate between a normal 360 TCU from a Stradale one.
    I'm still hesitant to throw out 1700$ to Ricambi for a unit that won't get my dealer's backing...
     
  22. J. Salmon

    J. Salmon F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Aug 27, 2005
    4,367
    VA
    Your dealer is wrong, and Daniel doesn't make stuff up. Have you got another dealer option?
     
  23. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
    Project Master

    Oct 29, 2005
    4,319
    Gibraltar
    Full Name:
    360trev
    The Stradale TCU is pin for pin compatible, plugs straight in. You can verify the TCU from the part numbers.
     
  24. vm3

    vm3 Formula Junior

    Apr 12, 2007
    728
    California
    Is there any difference between 2003 360 TCU and 2004 Challenge Stradale TCU?
     
  25. Mad_Al

    Mad_Al Rookie

    Jun 1, 2006
    38
    Italy
    The sky is blue due to the Rayleigh scattering
     

Share This Page