I've just listened to that "road test" and my considered conclusion is, what a complete load of toss. Why does every pommy journo so desperately need to be Jeremy Clarkson? Answer: because he's made a shed-load of money from being opinionated and outspoken, so who cares about logic? Its all lowest-common-denominator journalism and about as meaningful as a tabloid newspaper.
JC wasn't really anything until he ditched Tiff Needle. the only upside of JC is the creativity of the show, and because they can't really drive, a lot of viewers relate to them. where as Tiff Needle is like you watching the Japanese Best Motoring, doing things you know most people'll never able to do. Remember JC said that a Murcielago can't do perfect drift and power slide?? Check out the VOX from Germany, they made that yellow LP640 dance on the windy roads of Italy like a Ballarina.
Top Gear's obsession with powerslides is just laughable and of course utterly irrelevant. The irony is that 99% of poms look down their noses at Nascar, yet their favourite TV show is all about a bunch of childish men pretending to be the Dukes of Hazard. That VOX Lambo clip was done on closed roads with a professional driver. Again its media bullsh*t. I've driven all over northern Italy and, apart from the early hours of Sunday morning, the opportunities to hang the tail for any more than about 0.5 of a second are far and few between. There's either an ancient Fiat Panda in front of you or 15 Polish trucks coming the other way.
Irrelevant to what? Irrelevant to choosing which car to buy, sure... but I don't think many people are deciding that based on Top Gear's opinion of how sideways they go. It's 100% relevant to entertainment, which is what Top Gear (in its current and by far most popular incarnation) is there for.
My point is that the UK has an intensity around class distinction and social status that outweighs all other considerations. Yet their most popular entertainment is mindless schoolboy behaviour in other people's cars. Tell me what's different about TG's drifting displays versus P-platers street racing in the outer suburbs? Meanwhile these self-appointed experts (JC, Tiff, Plato, etc) denigrate cars for not being drift-worthy or "pulling up a hill from 40mph without dropping back a gear", as if any of that is relevant.
TG does it somewhere that isn't likely to have small children or random passers by getting in the way? If P platers want to go nuts on an airfield or a closed road, good luck to them. But what does it need to be relevant to? TG especially is about entertainment, if more people watch it then they've achieved their goal. What they do to the cars mustn't be that much of an issue, or Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche etc etc would stop handing them over, surely? They get publicity (even if a Murcielago is a heap of s**t because you can't drift it according to JC, the brand gets promoted/exposed), TG gets viewers, everybody wins.
Its great that you listened... how about watching it now So what you are saying is that its a complete toss based on your test drive in a Maserati GranTurismo? How exactly is your opinion any different to the "armchair" experts you were just making fun? I'm sure you have posted thoughts in here/or where ever b4 on cars you have never actually driven.... Everyones opinion on the Reventon is a perfect example how even the so called "exotic car owners" are just as bad as "armchair". Not everyone will have the opportunity of driving every single car ever made, you don't have to believe every single article written for a car, but if the general consensus is that a car is good, then being armchair you know its gonna be good. Jason nitpicked on the car which is better than "OMG LOOK ITS SOO BEAUTIFUL BEST CAR EVER!!!!111". The fact that Maserati are coming out with a more powerful model already would suggest they listened to the "journos" then thought it was a load of toss... I mean why do they even bother lending the cars out if they don't care what they think... All car companies care about is selling their products and what better way then getting "armchair" experts to talk about them. Jason likes to nitpick on ****, that you prob wont notice on a 30min test drive around Melb. I had assumed 360C had test driven the car. When he finally gets the car sometime this century(fingers crossed)... he will either notice it, or completely disagree but just saying "its good enough for melb roads" doesn't make Jason's thoughts any less relevant. Jason/Tiff are racing driver by trade, so I enjoy their reviews. While I wont go buy/not buy a car soley on what they say, I was just interested to see if 360C agreed or disagreed based on a testdrive that I now know never happened(I like 360C style ) If Schumie went back to test driving cars, would you just call his opinions a "toss" as well? The majority of car owners are "armchair" experts to some degree, INCLUDING YOU!! (haha ), having a Ferrari 360 in the garage doesn't make you the expert of every other exotic car on the market and I have noticed it with owners of certain makes that because they own something that was once considered special 3000yrs ago they are somehow still experts.
I thought it was a load of toss because of multiple comments like "from 40mph uphill, it shouldn't need to drop down a gear". I haven't given an opinion of the car here because I haven't driven one. But I could pull into any Maserati dealer in my Daytona and they'd throw me the keys. How about you?
The Reventon is a bollocks example The point of that thing appears to be just the looks (if it wasn't, they would have changed SOMETHING mechanical surely) and every Flt Lt Schmoe can look at it any time they want.
Exactly my point, thanks for playing. And to note, I didnt give my opinion either, I merely wanted to know if 360C agreed or not.
i don't agree that a luxury sports car like a GT with 400hp can be considered underpowered with any degree of sincerity. sure...you can always have more HP...but geez....you can say that about a veyron too.
My mum's 2005 Maxima is enough power with only 255hp. Already enough to accelerate quick enough entering eastern freeway and doing wheel spins. GT car with 400 hp is enough for everyday use. I was just talking to B27 last night, there are enough pot holes, tram tracks, cops on the side of the road, cats, dogs, fox, kangaroos running across the road, and speed humps, in all honestly anything more than 400 is only for the status symbol and show off.
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Everyone, once in your life, has to enjoy the childish pleasure of walking into an expensive car showroom in your gardening clothes and saying "I'll take that one". ps. you can tell that the Miami Vice Daytona is a fake 'cos if you rested your foot on the bumper of a real one, it would fall off.
weren't they given a Testarossa for the second series because ferrari weren't happy about the fake ? They even blew the fake up from memory
The truth right here JM. DAYTONA- Quote-"More formally known by Ferrari aficionados as the 365GTB/4, the Daytona was not well known to the general public. In fact, when the pilot episode aired, viewers were confused by the relatively obscure Daytona, and mistakenly identified it as a custom Corvette. Crockett's Daytona Spyder was actually a look-alike replica, built using a 1980 Corvette chassis with Ferrari-designed body panels and real Ferrari hardware inside. According to Popular Mechanics, the original replica was "spotted on a lot in Newport Beach by the show's producer." Motor Trend magazine, however, claims the two show cars were bought at an auction. Al Mardikian, an auto importer had the two replicas built by Tom McBurnie, but he found himself in legal trouble and the two cars were confiscated by the Feds. The producers in turn purchased the cars from the government. In 1986, McBurnie Coachcraft and California Custom Coach both offered Daytona Spyder kits for building replicas, and turn-key models built on a Corvette chassis were available for $45k. TESTAROSSA- Quote-By the start of the third season, Ferrari executives were getting miffed that the ersatz Daytona was gathering so much attention. The television audience was unaware that the show cars were fake. The producers intended for the car to be treated as a genuine Ferrari and Crockett never hints that the Daytona is a replica. Given the constructed reality of television, it is no wonder that the fake car was treated as real. In any event, Ferrari North America offered to provide two bona-fide Ferraris for Miami Vice, and they chose their flagship model, the 12-cylinder muscle machine, the Testarossa. The Testarossa debuted in the 1986 fall season opener as a black version driven by IRA gunrunner Sean Carroon. The exoticar was a fitting image for high rolling terrorists dealing in hand held Stinger missiles. Although the episode credits read "Crockett's Car Furnished by Ferrari North America", Sonny was yet to drive his new car. Michael Mann needed a plot device to introduce the Testarossa, so he had the gunrunners launch a Stinger missile at Crockett's prized Daytona and blew it up before his very eyes. A month later (the next episode), Lt. Castillo told a still-grieving Crockett to check out back for his new car. Sonny was greeted by a white Testarossa, Florida license plate ATF00M. He proudly recited the specs of his new toy to Rico, "345 hp and 180 mph!" Much like his treatment of women, Sonny soon forgot about his past relationship and eagerly moved on to the new. Two show cars were provided by Ferrari North America and were originally delivered black, but were later repainted white for better contrast at night. In addition, a stunt car was created by the Roberts Motor Co. by beefing up a 1972 DeTomaso Pantera chassis with salvaged Testarossa body parts. The mid-engined Pantera replicated the Ferrari much closer than the Corvettes which were used to create the Daytona look-alikes.
i've only got about a hundred in the gt4 and it's already too fast. i can't even remember the last time i was able to floor the 355 on a public road. they're all too fast to be anything other than bragging rights, as you said.
Die Replica Die!!!!! http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZitzKl7-4k Italian dubbing is very spaghetti westernish...
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